We are just finding out about a child sex trafficking ring involving politicians and billionaires, the world’s richest man does a Nazi salute at a political rally, and the President being an adjudicated sex criminal is probably not the worst thing he has done…

Meanwhile I’m standing here in the checkout line feeling guilty about whether or not I should tip a barista

Something is wrong with our collective notion of morality, and my individual understanding (Oh well, here we are)

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    Everyone acting like these are the worst times ever, makes me wonder about their history education. Yeah, America’s taken a steep dive this century. Yeah, that’s normal for empires to fall. Usually to greed.

    I’m hoping we crash hard, Great Depression hard. That clusterfuck ushered in liberal politics dominating until the 90s. We had conservatives, Reagan comes to mind, but they didn’t have unchecked power like today.

    Only exception I got is global warming. We’ve never played this particular game before.

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      False premise. I never said it was the worst time ever, or even that I was surprised.

      This is just about the relativity of my morality and what society is willing to tolerate

      (this to the above two smart comments as well - although I don’t fundamentally disagree)

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      Only exception I got is global warming. We’ve never played this particular game before

      I mean…

      Anatomically modern humans have been around, what, 300k years?

      Like you could grab someone from back then as an infant, raise them today, and they’d just be a regular dude.

      The last ice age ended about 50k years ago, and that’s why we say civilization was finally able to start. But that ignores that humans went thru the same ice age cycle 4-5 times in those 300k years.

      If all it took was “no ice age” then logically the chances of the first civilization being 50k years ago is pretty much zero.

      Climate change is like the inevitable reset for humanity. We’re making it happen fast this time, but we can’t really be sure that’s unique either. It doesn’t even take us, just a supervolcanoe or asteroid.

      Bright side is it makes it more likely humanity as a species makes it thru the next one. I think evidence shows we’ve been down to like 1,000 humans world wide 70k years ago? Maybe as little as 50 adults of reproductive age?

      But we’re 8 something billion now.