I know it never could or would work, but every so often I wish there was some imaginary huge tract of land that nobody had owned before…and I guess somehow didn’t affect the environment for all the assholes that want to play power games or pretend they could rule the world or just live lawlessly so they could be silo’ed off from society. Of course it would fall apart, innocent people would somehow end up in there. They’d probably end up attacking the rest of the world and I’m sure a myriad of other terrible problems. But man that’d be nice.

    • macncheese@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      131·
      28 days ago

      Nah but I’m stuck here., womp womp. I want a place people voluntarily go into. This is not based in reality lol. As I’ve gotten older and learned more about history, I realized what a cursed nation we are though…

  • Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.orgEnglish
    30·
    27 days ago

    Sorry, you’re born too late. You would have loved 19th century colonialism. As long as you could get over the “uninhabited” part of course.

    • macncheese@lemmy.worldOP
      19·
      27 days ago

      Everybody is assuming I want to take part in this. I want an imaginary zone for all the assholes to go to…

      • yermaw@sh.itjust.works
        31·
        27 days ago

        Ive had similar thoughts about racially pure islands. Everyone’s happy. The race-supremacy people get to live among their own and the rest of us are free from their bullshit.

    • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
      4·
      27 days ago

      Even more adventurous and lawless and dangerous in earlier centuries.

      As long as you could get over the “uninhabited” part of course.

      They sure did back then, easy as pie.

      And some very influential people want that era back. Incl. trampling on people already living there. [Techbroligarch “Freedom” Cities]

  • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
    23·
    28 days ago

    Yes. Somalia has 1,900 miles of coastline, a government that knows its place, and all the guns and wives you can afford to buy. Why have I never heard of this paradise before?

    -Pierce Hawthorne

  • TheFogan@programming.devEnglish
    9·
    28 days ago

    Honestly I’m more wishing the opposite was possible. Imagine a utopia to test out, UBI, communism etc… somewhere that capitalists aren’t going to sabatoge and declare war on it while it’s in it’s infancy.

  • falidorn@lemmy.world
    8·
    28 days ago

    You might want to read Neuromancer to find out why that’s a terrible idea. If it’s in a cyberpunk world, it’s almost assuredly a giant red flag the author is waving.

    • macncheese@lemmy.worldOP
      11·
      28 days ago

      To be clear, I don’t want to go to this autonomous zone. I want others to go do their weird shit there ha. But yea I’ll have to read Neuromancer, have heard it’s a good read.

      • falidorn@lemmy.world
        1·
        27 days ago

        It’s not about living there. The zone still allows for the rich and powerful to exploit people and profit immensely off of it. The world would be no prettier because your autonomous zone; that area would just be filthier.

        • macncheese@lemmy.worldOP
          1·
          27 days ago

          And thus why this zone is imaginary and would never work and I say it would have terrible problems. I fully accept reality and don’t want this to actually exist. This shower thought was not based in reality yet it seems I wasn’t clear about that.

  • I Cast Fist@programming.dev
    6·
    28 days ago

    You might be interested in the history of Kowloon Walled City after WW2

    As a result of the absence of any widely recognized bureaucracy, the city’s residents and businesses had no municipal codes to govern them. Enabled by the enclave’s anarchic nature, trade in banned products thrived, ranging from narcotics to dog meat. From the 1950s to the 1970s, it was controlled by local triad gangs and had high rates of prostitution, gambling, and drug abuse.

    • macncheese@lemmy.worldOP
      4·
      28 days ago

      Yea that place sounds nuts. My mom was for a time from Kowloon, not the walled city but I’m guessing around the same time it operated which is wild to imagine.

  • Wigners_friend@piefed.socialEnglish
    5·
    27 days ago

    It wouldn’t work, even in principle. They want to force you to live by their lunacy. It would be totally pointless if they couldn’t exert power over the unwilling.

  • NerdyPopRocks@lemmy.world
    4·
    27 days ago

    I thought you said Autozone and I was excited that someone else was also enthusiastic about a do-it-yourself auto repair shop

  • HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world
    4·
    27 days ago

    *See Australia, Taiwan, U.S.A., Japan

    Society used to exile people, send them to penal colonies or some people that felt ostracized packed up and left Society. Where? To some of the grea open uninhabited or not so habitatated lands. Taking U.S.A. as an example, there where religious extremists who became unwelcome in Britain, so they left to a place they could practice thier beliefs without competition, America.

    Every Society worked better because you didn’t need to imprison or kill people that where criminals and people that where ostracized somewhat had the option of making thier own land. Now every single piece of land is claimed there is nowhere to exile people and no where to just run to.