Why is everything to do with this story completely unsurprising.
Because we’ve all come to accept that Elon Musk doesn’t know how to run a social media site?
He knows how to run a social media site into the ground…
Which is probably the whole point. Make it seem like the site is failing because of mismanagement, and not that its failure was intended right from the start with a leveraged buyout saddling the business with an untenable $13bn of debt.
No, he’s just dumb!
Yup, it’s easy to forget that an important use of Twitter used to be finding out what was happening when propaganda was covering it up. It’s how we learned about Arab spring.
If my life were at risk from my government, I certainly wouldn’t trust Elon to keep me safe from them.
The Arab Spring is exactly one if the reasons Musk took over the site. That, and Peter Thiel’s (Musk’s old partner from PayPal) failed attempts at setting up a rival service.
They couldn’t rope Twitter into line, they couldn’t make a competing service, so instead they saddled Twitter with $13bn of debt so that it would die (or step into line if they felt like paying off the debt).
It’s the same way Toys R Us went under.
Musk’s antics over the last few months have been nothing but a distraction. The very purchase itself was a death sentence.
The best anyone can do right now is to migrate off of Twitter entirely. As long as Musk is in charge (or in charge through his puppet CEOs) the site will be a cesspool of toxicity and hate. I’m honestly not sure why reputable people are still using the site… guess the view and media exposure are better than doing the right thing and leaving?
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Why would anyone want to move to another functionally similar microblogging site if Twitter still has more users?
Perhaps because the quality of the experience is better, even if the number of users is lower. As Twitter appeals more and more to the far right, those might not be the users people want to be hanging around with.
Musk is a proponent of near-absolute free speech
Anything goes, so long as it doesn’t hurt his feelings personally
As long as you don’t use the term cisgender :)
Freedom, by Musk… a cologne that’s actually mace with directions to the local old folks home and instructions on how to use InShot.
People are also not allowed to say the word "cisgender” over there
Woah dude, cool it with the c-bombs.
It’s okay, I gave them a c-word pass.
Some of my friends are c-words, so I can use it
Or when an authoritarian government asks him to block literally anything
Kinda far from absolute imo.
I would claim actual free speech absolutists don’t exist.
You’re probably since those that preach about free speech are politically driven, hence biased to protect their stance. Rest of us have realized speech isn’t free of consequence and the last third just doesn’t give a fuck.
Defamation, fraud, hate speech, harassment, collusion, confidentiality, incitement…
No reasonable person actually thinks that free speech is an unlimited right. Plenty of kinds of speech are viewed as too harmful to be legal. The right is well understood to be about political speech only, and even then the edge cases can be hard to pin.
Anyone who claims to be an absolutist on free speech is insane or absolutely full of shit.
you forgot the most important one: being negative against musk/spez/freeSpeechAdmin123/insert any other free speech absolutist authority figure here
“TikTok copycat”
You know, way way back in the pre-Elon days, they had another one. I think it was called Vine?
I still don’t understand why they killed it. Must’ve been a real money sink.
high costs server side, poor quality of the videos, poor-ish internet connections, not enough powerful cell phones, etc. They were ahead of time. They achieved a decent success in the US but not much outside of it because of much of the reasons listed above.
Yeah, and it closed because they weren’t making money on it. Turns out all you needed was a few years for server costs to go down.
The fediverse is looking like the objective best alternative, more so day by day.
One day the far right has to realize we’re here, and they’ll pile in to hurl abuse etc. When that happens I’ll be looking for instances that moderate and defederate them away. I didn’t realize how much that stuff got me down until I came here from reddit and found people having reasonable conversations, just like in the old days. It’s a rare thing to find on today’s internet. Let the commercial sites go after absolute numbers of users while we pursue a better experience.
All social media is filled with animal cruelty.
There’s so many pictures and videos of cut up animal corpses with people going “yum” in the comments…I don’t get how I never see that on regular Twitter.
You’ve never seen any posts containing meat?
You know, I really wish you were clearer in your OP so I wasn’t dragged in to a vegans discussion
Oh no you had to think about what happens to the animals you eat for a few seconds!
I didn’t say I eat animals, chief.
Oh no you had to think about what happens to the animals
youother people eat for a few seconds!
Eating animals isn’t the problem, necessarily. It’s how the animals are grown and raised like crops is the problem. I have a weird stance on this that looks very contradicting. Humans are animals, and we are engineered to include meat in our diets. However, I don’t agree with how the majority of us access that meat.
I’m a strong believer in hunting for food, not sport. If you’re going to eat an animal, you should work for it. And be thankful. Doesn’t matter what beliefs you hold, you owe thanks to what the animal has provided you.
Meat farms are disgusting. But there’s no way they will ever go away. They’re much too profitable for companies to give up.
How do you humanely kill an animal who doesn’t need or want to die?
How does thanking someone after you needlessly kill them help anything?
Why not just eat plants when we can easily thrive on a plant based diet?
We aren’t “engineered” at all, we’re omnivores which means we can do just fine both with and without meat.You hunt it. Not as a sport. Give the animal a fair chance, and even then it’s not a fair fight, so be thankful for what’s been provided
It’s a too bad that you weren’t more clear than your first post, people almost took you serious
The “people going “yum” in the comments” made it so extremely obvious its about OP not wanting to see pieces of cooked meat in beef ramen videos
Why wouldn’t it be serious?
Meat is cut up animal corpses.
Humans can easily thrive without meat so it’s clearly abusive to kill for profit/taste.Could you reactionary fucks think about the subject for more than 2 seconds before you get angry and downvote?
Come on, guy, are you farming for an argument? You aren’t helping your case by being abrasive
With respect, this approach does nothing to convince people to reduce their meat consumption, and in fact alienates people who might otherwise be on the fence about reducing their meat intake.
We get told this literally no matter how we approach the subject lol.
Which approach is it you think I’m using here and why is it ineffective?
It’s not like I’ve been especially rude or anything?Which approach worked on you?
You’ve been hostile (“reactionary fucks”) and you’ve hijacked the broader discussion referenced in the article (Musk’s Twitter showing terrible videos including human death, animal cruelty, etc) to make a point about meat consumption generally versus videos on Twitter showing the intentional and purposeful infliction of pain on animals for pleasure.
My meat consumption is down quite a bit. Information on substitutes, good recipes, studies on the intelligence of (for example) squid and such have shifted me into eating less meat. While I’m sure you’d prefer people not eat meat at all, convincing 5 people to cut their meat consumption 50% is better than convincing 0 people to cut their meat consumption 100% , no?
This is kind of funny, cause it’s the same approach the toxic right takes against progressives. “Be nice to us cause pointing out the things you do makes us get angry instead and won’t convince us.” It’d be ridiculously hilarious if it weren’t so sad at the same time. This is the most subtly toxic response you could have had.
No, they’re incapable and whingy.
The content moderation is more active I guess. People post stuff like that all the time on Facebook and Instagram too. Not sure if they have an algorithm or whatever to trigger removal but a good amount are still manually removed by workers, some who quit because of the psychological repercussions
Yeah, I did listen to a podcast about content moderators at Facebook having breakdowns from dealing with having to see that kind of shit day in, day out.
Fuck. That. Noise.
Do people post much food content on Twitter? I never really used Twitter other than when news stories included tweets so I have no idea what’s popular out there.
Its become mostly far-right wing spam.
Think if 4chan trolls and stormfront trolls had a bastard child.
This is not the mental image I wanted before I finished my coffee this morning.
A lot of people actually do post a lot of food. At least within the art community on Twitter there are so many food posts on the timelines of artists. Saying this as I only use Twitter for specifically them.
Folks, there is important, valid discussion to be had about meat eating both from ethical an environmental perspectives. I’m not sure that !Technology is the place to have that discussion, however.
More importantly, this thread was not the way to discuss these issues, particularly on Beehaw. The behavior in this thread was not nice, and is not the way that these types (or any type) of discussion should be conducted.
I just made a comment about animal cruelty on social media, in a thread about animal cruelty on social media.
Sadly speaking up for the animals provokes angry responses in many people.
I’m not saying that you are solely at fault for the thread getting out of hand, but I hope we can agree that when things devolve to the point that we’re talking about murdering other users and eating their corpses that the discussion has probably gotten out of hand.
I think there are ways of discussing even controversial topics without the conversation spinning out of control, but I know that this topic in particular touches a nerve with a lot of folks. Just please try to be mindful of whether you’re escalating or deescalating the argument in the future.
It’s of course hypothetical, and I think, totally within reason, it’s a thread about animal abuse.
It’s one of the problems we run into when speaking up against animal abuse, people call us extreme when we are really just being up front about what happens in reality.I try to keep it civil and respond matter of fact and explain but it can be hard when you get so much toxicity thrown back at you, all because you stand up against animal cruelty.
It’s of course hypothetical, and I think, totally within reason, it’s a thread about animal abuse.
Hypothetical or not, I’m telling you that it’s not acceptable for this instance.
I understand you want to keep it civil here and think it’s a great goal but what you’re saying would keep us from discussing serious subjects.
When there’s context which explains why something that sounds extreme is brought up you should look at the context, not just react to what you think is extreme.
I don’t think disallowing thought experiments/hypotheticals is positive.
I don’t want to continue to derail this post with offtopic comments. If you’d like to discuss further, feel free to DM me.
This is definitely a problem that’s going to get worse, fast. Federated communities+feed that draws from a pile of them without particular reference+larger userbase…
This is certainly an issue that we’re aware of and discussing.
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Yes there’s no difference between a picture of a steak and fries on a plate, and a kitten being tortured then burned alive. Absolutely the same thing.
Not to vegans, they’re clinically insane.
Why is it better to kill a cow for profit/taste?
Both scenarios are needless killing of animals which is obviously terrible abuse.
Is caring about animal abuse insane?
They’re both clearly abuse, the steak used to be a living being who was tortured and killed for profit/taste.
Why are you people downvoting me? Do you think steaks don’t come from cows who are killed?
Many reported being alarmed by a stream of graphic videos they encountered while scrolling through the feed, including videos showing gun violence, police brutality, physical altercations and vaccine misinformation.
So it’s working as intended?
Steve “spez” Huffman calls the feature “visionary” and jokes that he wishes some protesting Reddit moderators be featured in the videos.
System is working as intended… I guess then huh Elon?
As for the free speech claims. I guess it’s code for Elon doesn’t want to pay people to moderate the content.
Of course Elon would.
Only use it via browser and wasn’t even aware of such feature nor do I care. These short videos are a rabbit hole I don’t want to explore because there’s no coming back
I’ve used them several times. Every time I get 3-4 videos deep and get pissed off because it lacks basic functionality, there’s zero curation so it’s just a stream of shit, the content is shit because they try to cram it into a vertical video, a format that makes zero sense, and I come away from every video thinking “WTF did I just watch?”
Seriously this segment of entertainment truly befuddles me.
are there videos of apes with nualink in their brains?
