• SippyCup@feddit.nl
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    6 days ago

    Fun fact, John Brown had chronic back pain from carrying around the weight of his massive balls.

    Actual fact: Americans don’t learn about John Brown because John Brown’s existence highlights a lot of ugly truths about American history, the American people at the time, and how corrupted the core of the American experiment really is.

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      Actual fact: many Americans do learn about John brown in school, some of us even learned about Nat Turner. It’s downright common to learn about the Bloody Kansas affair as it was a major inciting incident of our civil war.

      I wouldn’t be surprised though if I only learned so much about this because I grew up in a northern state that was one of the primary hotbeds of militant abolitionism (Ohio). We were home to Brown, Grant, and Sherman. We also learned that the fugitive slave act was an act of outright southern aggression on our right to free our fellow humans from their barbarous cruelty. Unfortunately ths state’s filled with dipshits flying the slavers’ rag these days talking about a heritage that certainly wasn’t ours.

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        I went to public school in Florida, and can tell you that neither of those names were ever brought to discussion. I only learned about John Brown from YouTube in my later twenties.

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          I went to public school in Florida and John Brown definitely came up in my history class. But that’s probably teacher and/or school district dependent, a friend of mine grew up in Ocoee and did not learn about the Ocoee massacre in school.

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      Actual fact: Americans don’t learn about John Brown because John Brown’s existence highlights a lot of ugly truths about American history, the American people at the time, and how corrupted the core of the American experiment really is.

      John Brown is a very well known figure in the US, and widely taught about.

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        I live in a fairly blue state which tends to lean into highlighting the atrocities of the south during the Civil War (and all other eras to be frank) and I never learned about John brown until after high school

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          That’s weird, I grew up in ohio and we learned a lot about him, good bad and complicated. The civil war and fight against slavery was a huge part of state history for Ohio though.

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      Americans don’t learn about John Brown

      Horseshit.

      I learned about him in public school 40 years ago, and so have both my kids more recently. My 8th grade class visited Harper’s Ferry.

      edit: It would be accurate enough if you qualified it saying “some Americans dont learn about Brown.” Trying to make it a sweeping generalization is horseshit, presumably aimed at being inflammatory.

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      Another fun fact: John Brown’s body lies a mouldering in the grave. His soul is marching on!

      Literally cannot see his name without the song going through my head.