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    “we fucked up our massive new generation product launch… oh well lets invest trillions in new data centers” How do investors keep falling for this shit.

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      Don’t they have enough?!? How about they fix and optimize their fancy autocompletion software instead?

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        They took a path they believed would develop into something, and it’s a narrow alley they can’t turn around in. They have to keep going with more compute and power to continue the chase. Thing is, everyone else seemingly thought they were onto something and followed as well, so they’re all in the same predicament where reversing course is suicide. So they hope they can keep selling the dream a bit longer until something happens.

        To be fair, it’s a lot more than just autocomplete. But it’s a lot less than what they wanted by now too.

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          vibe innovation, they are the ones that think AI will be innovative in science by spontaneous generating of new science discoveries, without “researchers, labs, papers”

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            I have seen some people talk like that, and it strikes me as a religion. There’s euphoria, zeal, hope. To them AGI is coming to usher in heaven on earth. Singularity is like rupture.

            Sam Altman is one of the preachers of this religion.

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        Fix and optimize? Thats way harder than using VC money to buy more things.

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        Don’t they have enough?!?

        No no, it’s just 1 more data center bro, then we’ll fix the hallucinations, promise bro!

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      It’s a pretty clear humble-brag, no? The launch was only botched because people loved the previous personality; it’s an estimate of how much people care about the product and how much price gouging they could do later.

      No it wasn’t good for OpenAI. But I doubt it changed many investor minds.

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      Because they already know that once the AI shitbubble bursts, they will switch all the GPUs to start mining Bitcoin and keep grifting the mouth breathers believing all these horseshit.

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        moving back to CRYPTO after it already crashed, and only people investing in it are the ones that are easily scammed; conservatives,old people.

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      How do investors keep falling for this shit.

      The ROI and the supposed savings from getting rid of the human side of technical support but also efforts of human creatives.

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      How indeed. It’s probably a multi-factor phenomenon which requires an anthropological study for a serious answer. (Good luck trying to get the necessary access to study them.) My guess for one factor in this, is that they have more money than they know what to do with.

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    “I literally lost my only friend overnight with no warning,” one person posted on Reddit

    It was meant to be satirical at the time, but maybe Futurama wasn’t entirely off the mark. That Redditor isn’t quite at that level, but it’s still probably not healthy to form an emotional attachment to the Markov chain equivalent of a sycophantic yes-man.

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      I’m honestly surprised your’s is not the top comment. Like, whatever, the launch was bad, but there is a serious mental health crisis if people are forming emotional bonds to the software.

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        Humans emotionally bond pretty easily, no? Like, we have folks attached to roombas, spiders, TV shows, and stuffed animals. Having a hard time thinking of anything X that I don’t personally know a person Y with Y emotionally engaged with X. Maybe taxes and concrete?

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          Yeah, agreed. It is concerning, but it’s hard to take all those comments too literally without actually knowing what’s going on with them.

          That being said, there is a huge loneliness problem that’s been growing among pretty much every single developed country (and I’m sure it’s going on in developing countries, too, it’s just less studied/documented). Turns out, getting everyone addicted to looking at screens all day every day probably isn’t so healthy for social development.

          However, just to be devil’s advocate: Are we certain social health was even great before modern tech? Or were these issues equally present but just undiagnosed/not studied/talked about?

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        It’s a human trait. Hell, we’ll even emotionally bond with a volleyball given circumstances.

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        I can fully understand? The average human, from my perspective and lived experience, is garbage to his contemporaries; and one is never safe from being hurt, neither from family or friends. Some people have been hurt more than others - i can fully understand the need for exchange with someone/something that genuinely doesn’t want to hurt you and that is (at least seemingly) more sapient than a pet.

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        I haven’t been to reddit in months, but I do need a laugh…

        [Edit] Wow that sure didn’t disappoint. Or, it did but in the exact hilarious way I expected.

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          I wouldn’t laugh. Those people fulfill a basic human need in a way they feel safe with - probably because this safety is missing from their life. It’s not healthy to be so attached to LLMs, but to become so attached they must feel pretty isolated. And LLM’s are a lot more interactive and responsive than Severus Snape, and he had lots of women “channeling” him.

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          I visited /r/myboyfriendisai and it was not funny.

          It was genuinely fucked up on so many levels.

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        i was going to mention it, they were having a meltdown when altman made the new version available. granted some of them are probably AI posts themselves or trolls.

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        Don’t their partners kind of die each time a new chat is made?

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          LLMs do seem to be able to store the chats and work with the old material in new conversations, requiring an account of course. Idk, I haven’t personally used any of them that extensively.

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      Markov chain equivalent of a sycophantic yes-man.

      not only that, but one that is fully owned and operated by a business that could change it any time they want, or even cease to exist completely.

      This isn’t like a game where you could run your own server if you’re a big enough fan. if chatgpt stops existing in its current form that’s it.

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    Nah, it’s good that they ripped off that bandaid. Parasocial AI relationships are terrible.

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    It annoys me that Chat GPT flat out lies to you when it doesn’t know the answer, and doesn’t have any system in place to admit it isn’t sure about something. It just makes it up and tells you like it’s fact.

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      LLMs don’t have any awareness of their internal state, so there’s no way for them to see something as a gap of knowledge.

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        Took me ages to understand this. I’d thought "If an AI doesn’t know something, why not just say so?“

        The answer is: that wouldn’t make sense because an LLM doesn’t know ANYTHING

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      It doesn‘t know that it doesn‘t know because it doesn‘t actually know anything. Most models are trained on posts from the internet like this one where people rarely ever just chime in to admit they don‘t have an answer anyway. If you don‘t know something you either silently search the web for an answer or ask.

      So since users are the ones asking ChatGPT, the LLM mimics the role of a person that knows the answer. It only makes sense AI is a „confidently wrong“ powerhouse.

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      It wouldnt finish a lyric for me yesterday because it was copyrighted. I sid it was public domain and it said “You are absolutely right, given its release date it is under copyright protection”

      Wtf

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        yeah, there are guardrails but for copyright, not for bullshit. ig they think copyrighted content is worse than bullshit.

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      Someone I know (not close enough to even call an “internet friend”) formed a sadistic bond with chatGPT and will force it to apologize and admit being stupid or something like that when he didn’t get the answer he’s looking for.

      I guess that’s better than doing it to a person I suppose.

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      That’s actually one thing that got significantly improved with GPT-5, fewer hallucinations. Still not perfect of course

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      It is a system that outputs an answer that is the most probably correct one from what it processes from the inputs. It does not have the concept of creating a lie. It is just a probability machine.

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      And depending on how OpenAI tweaked it this time it will either realize its mistake after being made aware of it or double down even harder on it.

      I only use it for coding and it once told me my code not working was due to a bug in Webkit, so I asked it which bug specifically. It created links to bug reports but rewrote the titles of them. So initially it looked like it had numerous sources that backed up its statement but when I clicked on them those were bugs about totally different things.

      It would not back down even after I specifically told it “You just made all of this shit up and even rewrote the titles” and got stuck in a loop of “I’m sorry, but you’re wrong and I am 100% sure I haven’t made a mistake”.

      Kinda creepy. Especially when you think about the system rewriting reality when it comes to much more important things. Let’s just reinvent some history, that would be a good idea, right?

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        I sometimes approach this like I do with students. Using your example, I’d ask it to restate the source, then ask it to read the title of that source directly. If it’s correct, I might ask it to briefly summarize what the source article covers. Then I would ask it to restate what it told me about the source earlier, and to explain where the inconsistency lies. Usually by this time, the AI is accurately pointing out flaws in its prior logic. At that point I ask again if it is 100% sure it didn’t make a mistake, and it might actually concede to having been wrong. Then I tell it to remember how and why it was wrong to avoid similar errors in the future. I don’t know if it actually works, but it makes me feel better about it.

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    Its disturbing to see how many people have created emotional connections to a word generstor.

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        Right? If you told someone from the past that we outsourced imagination to computers, they‘d think we live in a dystopia! Oh, wait…

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    Just a few more bucks bro! I swear then it will be the revolutionary “AI” we promised it to be.

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      *Few more billion.

      I sometimes wonder if silicon valley tech businesses in general will take a reputation hit with investors when this bubble bursts, it’s gonna be a doozy.

      But then I remember how many greedy idiots there are out there pumping money into grifts in the hope of The Big Win, and my expectations of consequences are tempered.

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        I think it’s driven by the investors. In the case of big tech, the large institutional investors are rewarding companies any time they say “AI” and lay off workers. In the case of startups, VCs are almost exclusively investing in startups that use “AI,” and have a lean or offshore workforce.

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    Every picture of this guys face feels like " I don’t know how I got here and i’m afraid to touch anything"

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    Never use AI for friendship, it’s like admitting you only want yes-men in your life. I don’t want to be around anyone who uses AI for emotional support.

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      It’s so much more effective when you keep things as neutral as possible. I will often ask it to tear apart my argument as though I am my opponent and use its tendency to align with the user against itself.

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        A fellow contrarian I see. I actually hate when it agrees with me so I look for holes.

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      You would have better luck with a dating sim then AI as emotional support. Might inspire you to make a real friend.

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    Sam Altman admits Rambling meth dealer ‘totally screwed up’ its super meth launch and says the company will spend trillions of dollars on data centers

    I love my AI hype word replacement script

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      Honestly the more I read, the more I think that AI shouldn’t have been invented. Humanity is heading in the same direction as the machine stops short story.

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    I smell a finance bubble bursting in the near future tbh. Rather be prepared sooner than later.

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        I think it will break sooner, but the real impact will happen after midterms so it can be “fake news” without threatening 🍊 Cheetolini‘s presidency

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            Depends on whether they can declare martial law. It‘s likely, but can‘t happen too unprovoked because this would give figures like Newsom too much ammo against Trump. Project 2025 doesn‘t care though

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    Besides helping students cheat. What does AI actually do? It gets answers wrong. It gets facts wrong, foreign countries are actively feeding its training algorithm wrong info [Russia]. It almost like the old birds that were mystified by landing on the moon are still chasing that American success high.

    Spend your money if you want. Life in america is not gonna get better with this.

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      Some translation tasks. Some how-to stuff. I’m told folks like using it to generate say-nothing replies to say-nothing emails?

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        I’ve used it for work bullshit like employee goals. My goal is to keep doing my job and tackle problems and projects as they are needed.

        Also for giving examples for poorly-documented but popular programs.

        It’s definitely not what the media and their PR makes it out to be.

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          Oh yeah that reminds me. It seems to have killed (possibly with the help of AI summary in search) stack exchange. Iirc you can see the visit rates plummet into oblivion.

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            SE/SO has been on the decline for a long time now. They pivoted to find more ways to monetize the answers and started enshittifying, trying to appeal to business clients and money-people instead of the users and developers who built the knowledgebase. It was good when it felt like a community helping each other, it fell off when it felt like a company milking you to build out their monetized wiki.

            At this point, from their perspective, the biggest fuck up was not locking down SE from scrapers and building their own AI. It is in every way the same situation that Reddit is in, just with a more focused and higher quality data set (and fewer, arguably “higher quality,” users).

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      My office uses a model trained specifically on our work data. They can actually be quite accurate in those contexts. That’s what many corpos are using the tech internally for. Can’t remember what random SOP/regulation/etc covered XYZ and meta tags aren’t finding it on your SPO doc library? This tech comes in clutch ~95% of the time.

      For this broad, ambiguous, general purpose approach? Yeah, idk, I guess many people are meeting their social needs with it, apparently.

      Edit: actually, I did ask copilot a couple days ago a series of Pokemon related questions my son was asking me about (I hadn’t played any of the games in a long time). It was quite helpful figuring out all the evolution requirements and whatnot without the hassle of navigating various websites.

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      It is good for generating fanfiction from what I heard and as a search engine, but that is a low bar considering how bad google is these days.