Edit: Looks like you can opt-out of that “new look and feel” pretty easily under the appearance settings but still, whats with putting rounded corners everywhere?
Edit 2: “Explore the web with a softer, more friendly aesthetic featuring rounded corners […] Designed to complement your operating system, whether on Windows 11, MacOS, or Linux.” The fuck does that mean? Windows 11 fair enough but most Linux distros don’t look like that at all.
No corner. Only Edge.
Yeah there goes my coffee …
This made me chuckle more than I’d like to admit.
Wha… Why are you using Edge?
I’m so confusedI mainly use Firefox but have Edge to test website with, can’t really uninstall it anyway.
Alright. This guy’s story checks out. Let’em through.
Damnit! Now I’ve oiled my pitchforks for nothing. Ah well… gues i’ll be visiting the political subs again…
Hey, I saw someone ask an innocent question about something they don’t know in a post down the street. Wanna go make fun that guy?
Oompa loompa doompadideed
We’re honna make fun of some guy down the steeet
Get a load of this guy not oiling his pitchfork regularly any way.
Why not just use Ungoogled Chromium for your tests? It’s the same browser anyway, just without the spyware.
Because your tests might react differently in an environment with spyware. And rounded corners. These are called Edge cases.
LMFAO 💯
It is possible to remove it, needs a bit of work and running scripts as admin to do it but you can figure out if you look it up. I can’t remember how I did it and I don’t use windows anymore but first page results should bring it up.
not with that attitude you can’t. (C’mon. You know you wanna convert to linux.)
You can…
One browser to actually use and one without anything to test shit on
The experience in the enterprise as well as the management of it make sense for any company who are a m365 shop. Native seamless single sign on with corporate identities, along with syncing the browser make it a no brained for me to use for work. For personal stuff though I stick with Firefox.
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It got way better in the past few years. I think everybody hates it, because the internet explorer was that slow. So it just stayed in our minds that the Microsoft browser sucked.
It still sucks, but in a different way.
No. It sucks because it’s Chromium.
Most people on fedi will complain about there not being enough browser diversity and then immediately start worshipping and putting Firefox on a pedistal and complaining if anyone uses anything else
Show me in this doll where the Arch user hurt you. 😞
Using firefox will create browser diversity
I really don’t get their take on FF use. Maybe they don’t realize that virtually ALL the other browser options are Chromium based. Your only real choices are Chrome | Safari | Firefox
And Safari is only on apple devices. So for other devices its Chrome or Firefox. With Chrome having near market monopoly… so… yeah Firefox is diversity.
Real chads pirate Safari and run it on Arch. /s
Hmm… that should be possible shouldn’t it. Ok, my wife’s rarely used Thinkpad is turning into a my first Arch machine.
Scratch that she doesn’t want me screwing with her laptop, she said to put it on my desktop. TBF I have a habit, or rather an ADHD, of starting ‘upgrades’ to things and leaving them in a non-functioning state for a while before finally coming back to them and finishing.
What chromium alternative would you suggest?
I have a few sites that do not work on FF. I have to use it sometimes.
Got stuff at work (Microsoft services, for the record) that’ll work in Edge or Chrome, but not entirely in Firefox (gee, wonder why)
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I don’t understand what you mean by jank, and uBlock origin is objectively better on Firefox.
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-best-on-Firefox
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Odd, I rarely have any problems and I use a beta version.
Sure they can add rounded corners but can they fix this mess?
It’s like they somehow overcentered a div. I didn’t even know it was possible. They used
display: ‘crunch’
in their CSS.
Maybe their devs did their work in Firefox rofl
I gotta say I love that Microsoft has the self confidence to think that there are people who use edge on Linux.
Is there even a version of edge for Linux??
I do. It’s more secure than any other alternative. Not private, but really, really secure.
How is Edge secure in any way? It isn’t even open source & and both Google (Chromium) and Microsoft add their code to it, so even if Chromium were more secure than Firefox, you could just normal Chromium, couldn’t you?
Not being open source ≠ not safe.
Microsoft ships hardened Chromium basically, with sandboxing turned up to eleven.
They also run their SmartScreen filtering on top of that.
Also, Firefox is more private, not secure. Either you run LibreFox or it’s less secure than Edge by default.
Softer…like they just wanted to take the edge off.
I’ll see myself out now.
One of my son’s steam buddies is nicknamed Microsoft edging. I think it’s pretty funny, not sure my son gets it… (He’s 15 though, so it won’t be long)
i wish they would take the edge off my computer
As it’s Microsoft, you can be pretty sure the option to turn off the new look and feel will be removed in 6 months
Or half finished and left in there for decades
It could even be both, if you really think about it
Smartphones: Rounded everything, nobody actually likes it. Edge:
I… Kind of like it?
So you’d say you’re not … ( •_•)>⌐■-■
… edgy (⌐■_■)
I’m almost afraid to admit, but I dig it.
Like I’m not going to use Edge, but it’s nice. 😛
That way you can’t cut yourself on the sharp edges
I’ve noticed that there’s a shift in UI design currently back to the 2000s style of round UI design, which eventually moved out of the way for nice straight crisp corners when we shifted from CRTs to LCDs which could render pixel perfect images at last.
We never limited the viewport on a browser of course, that’s madness. But just look at XP’s bubbly design and interfaces of the time vs Win8/10’s very angular, clean crisp interface.
I do hope we’re not descending back into an age of curves, I’m not a fan. But styles come and go every few decades, and maybe younger people today are ready to experience their “age of curves” for the first time?
It might just be down to nostalgia, especially when it comes to the early 2000s Windows XP style aesthetic. Just think about all the Vaporwave stuff (although that seems to be mostly late-90s-ish).
I’m more of a Windows Aero fan, myself. Frutiger Aero in general has a very dystopian vibe for me but I’m a sucker for transparency.
I miss integrated transparency
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Use Firefox
If you’re lucky, it’ll follow along with Chrome and start sharing your browser history to advertisers, too!
Actually, since it’s based off Chromium, I’m pretty sure(don’t quote me on this) that those changes will go downstream into most Chrome-based browsers automatically, unless they take the time to remove it manually.
Brave at least claims to be an actual fork of chromium, they cherry pick upstream apparently. It’s still full of crypto bs, so choose your poison.
You’re probably right. IMO Chromium should be dropped wherever possible.
In the ideal world these Chromium-based browsers would rebase into Ungoogled or something of the sort. But ofc that’s never happening, so I’d suggest getting ahead and setting things up on Firefox.
ATM I run Vivaldi and Firefox. Vivaldi is currently my main, but I also use FF quite often and will probably start try to switch away from Chromium in the future.
I sort of understand rounding outside edges for aesthetics since there’s nothing lost and it might be easier as a target for resizing, but inside corners are just stupid. You’re arbitrarily cutting corners out of content for no good reason.
Also looks a lot better in a multi-window environment, i.e., not your phone.
Probably to match windows 11 borders
Remember: less viewport and more whitespace = somehow more ergonomic
Gosh I love scrolling through 7 pages just to read two paragraphs!
I mean you can like or dislike it of course but are you really complaining about a viewport 20 square pixels smaller than normal
Yes, that’s what redditor/lemmy users do. None of these people know anything about UX design or the tens of millions of dollars companies pour into user research.
Any minimally decent website already has margin along the viewport edge, at worst you’re shaving off a few pixels from an image that the user probably hasn’t finished scrolling to anyway. There’s no real loss in content with this change.
apart from that it ruins any website’s unique design by forcefully shoving it’s rounded corners into it, or making anything in the corner look odd
How does it ruin unique designs? Nothing important should be so far in the corner that it gets cut off
i’ve designed a few websites recently which really favour sharp corners, and when one of my sharp objects randomly has a rounded corner, when none of the others do, just because it happens to be in the top left corner, in my opinion that’s a bad thing?
Are you able to show us an example of what you’re talking about? I genuinely cannot picture a situation where this would be remotely as bad as some of y’all are making it out to be, how do you design a website in such a way that very slightly chamfered edges completely ruins the look?
That was my takeaway.
THeSe mOroNs dOnT knOw What ThEYre dOIng! WHo thOUgHT thIs wAs a GooD IDeA?!
Probably the hundreds of focus groups that were behind the decision shrug
Yeah no joke. My company is much smaller than MS but they still do tons of user research and surveys. They’ve also been adopting rounded corners for everything. It is easier on the eyes for sure. I like it. The dev types who dominate lemmy always think they know better than ux, but most of them are comically bad at design.
