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    I think Musk is a hack and a conman, but what the fuck is with lefty twitter accounts that think behaving like a completely braindead troll online will sway anyone? Hexbears on lemmy have the same style of moronic shit slinging.

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      People have given up on actually swaying people, as it’s been seen that the most entrenched opinions never ever ever change their stance about anything, regardless of evidence shown.

      The most enjoyable thing to do thus is openly mock them, making their entrenched lives miserable.

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        The most enjoyable thing to do thus is openly mock them, making their entrenched lives miserable.

        You are overrestimating the effect this sort of discourse has on people, they are mildly annoyimg at best, and the “mockery” only has the effect of making them look ridiculous.

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      Yeah it’s weird, I think a lot of people use being left wing as an excuse to give up on trying to be a decent person in any way, like ‘I’m on the right side of history therefore anything I do us automatically good and right and heroic’ it’s annoying.

      I guess the bright side is that there’s a lot of idiots in the world and if they’re going to vote progressive left as their excuse to be an idiot that’s better than nothing.

      Also I hate ‘let’s do a lefty podcast, it’ll be 90% dick and cum jokes, 10% other juvenile shit and occasionally we’ll mention something that happened in politics if we can get a dick joke out of it’

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    The ballast could just as easily have been university student design team projects and he would have been doing a ton of good for the world, but instead he decided to waste all that fuel and a whole car for publicity. “Efficiency”.

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      On the first flight of SpaceX’s Falcon 1 rocket, a university satellite was the payload. Not only did the launch fail in just the first few seconds, but the payload crashed back. Landing in the shipping container it arrived in. First launches of rockets do not have good track records. Risking a silly car was arguably more fun than the equally useless “mass simulators” used on most first launches. If it were my satellite, I would not have wanted it on the first Falcon Heavy launch.

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        To give an otherwise unfunded project the chance to go to space, however slim, is worth far more than a tesla roadster with an astronaut mannequin, and costs far less. What was their satellite design going to do on earth?

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        There isn’t any way we could find a million high school students to donate experiments or golden records. What we need is to use government investment to shoot shameless product placement for my other company into space and live stream pictures of it.

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          What government investment are you talking about? SpaceX paid for the first flight with their own cash. Launch contracts for Falcon Heavy were for subsequent flights. Heck, SpaceX got in trouble from the US government for the live stream of pictures.

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    Melting plastic while trying to smoke drugs only makes you smoke the plastics. Totally not speaking from experience.

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      Going to space actually is important for a long list of reasons, has made humanity better and who knows, might even save it as we’re on a crash course with this earth. I know, I know, saving it is easier and better, but interest in doing that can’t be found

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        I feel like FFXIV Endwalker sort of mocked this; the idea that our future lies in the stars.

        We won’t get a better chance than here. Most sci-fi books expect space colonization within this millennia, which is a bit of a pipe dream and glosses over issues of atmospheric livability.

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          Heh Sci-Fi talks a lot about atmospheric livibility, like if anything it talks way too much about it.

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          Oh I know that a “future in between the stars” is going to be extremely complicated and hard, if possible at all. Going to live on Mars is already close to a pipe dream yeah.

          But that doesn’t mean that space exploration and travel itself is bad. There are loads of reasons why it’s good and necessary and we should invest more in it; take money from the military instead.

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        Is the long list written anywhere ? And are they practical right now to everybody kind of reasons, or are they “in this hypothetical far future” kind of reasons ?

        I know it’s cool and all, but we know how to shoot things into space already.

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            Going to space now. I know nasa has contributed to humanity. They are even planing to make a radio telescope on the moon. Spacex is… putting internet into space. Internet… into space. Instead of laying fiber and building radio towers, burning fuel to put a lot of satelites that need to be periodically replaced. They are even making the same mistakes that others have learned from. If that money went into proper research on just about anything… If that money went into fiber… If that money went to nasa, that is doing something actually useful. That money and work is going into burning fuel.

            And yea, i get it, rockets are cool. Space is cool. But spacex is not about advancing humanity or anything.

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              That money IS going to NASA, and then NASA decided it was a worthwhile investment to work with SpaceX to transport astronauts to the space station, resupply the station, and be an important research partner in autonomous landing systems, full-flow staged combustion engines, and many many more.

              The rest of the money is coming from commercial launch customers, government and private customers alike.

              Also, fiber internet doesn’t do you any good while you’re in the air or on the sea.

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                There are already enough satelites for airplane and sea (and middle of rainforest) internet. Skylink, or whatever it’s called, was made for price gauged, infrastructure money laundered, usaians. Actually idk what it’s made for. I don’t see the point of private rocket companies at all. Guy was talking like elon, how we need to escape earth or something. Like it’s not our problem.

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        theres no actual reason more than curiosity. dont get me started on colonization of other planets

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            its basically impossible to sustain a reasonably sized population on mars. like antarctica, except it takes like 18 months or something to get there. i dont believe that anything as dramatic as terraforming is practical or even possible. who will be allowed to go to mars? most likely only the rich. why dont we invest more money and resources into fixing our current planet? overpopulation can be avoided if we plan cities better, advocate contraception, etc. certainly more believable than sending a large portion of people to another whole planet. even if we could: should we? it would create a massive social divide. and who is running this whole thing? so far it seems like elon musk is the most mainstream advocator of this idea. would you like if your entire planet was owned by him. good luck forming a union on sector 7 of the oxygen plantation.

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              who will be allowed to go to mars? most likely only the rich.

              Living on Mars would be miserable. If colonization ever happens, it’ll be because there’s money to be made, and it’ll be poor people who are send to die in the Mars mines or whatever.

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              I dont believe that anything as dramatic as terraforming is practical or even possible.

              I’d also like to add that the amount you’d need to terraphorm Mars you could just… do to Earth. I think a lot of the points you made are valid, but some of those questions are pretty hypothetical.

              Idk, I think it’d be neat for humanity to go off planet and extrasolar. Even if it’s not a priority, you can’t really do that unless you’re working towards it. Doesn’t really matter to me regardless, I’ll be long dead before it happens.

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                you could just… do to Earth

                exactly. but spacex d***riders who believe mars is the future are retarded

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                  I have no disagreement beyond your description of them. I agree that they’re sycophantic dipshits.

                  Like, Mars doesn’t have a magnetosphere. How the fuck do you make one of those? How do you make the gravity stronger?

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          Asteroid mining would mean no more mining on our planet, which is one of the most polluting things on here right now.

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          Colonization, if ever possible, definitely is a good reason

          Other good reasons are simply science. There are too many advancements made that would not have happened without going to space. Having satellites is a requirement now to monitor the earth and -if still possible- save it.

          Of course there are bullshit projects like star link, dumping hundreds, thousands of tiny shit satellites up on the sky even though it’s completely unnecessary… but that is a rich asshole problem more than a space problem