Tech boss was addressing the ‘unite the kingdom’ protest organised by Tommy Robinson via video link

Elon Musk has called for a “dissolution of parliament” and a “change of government” in the UK while addressing the crowd attending the “unite the kingdom” rally, organised by the far-right activist Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, known as Tommy Robinson.

The X owner, who dialled in via a video link and spoke to Robinson while thousands of attenders watched along, also railed against the “woke mind virus” and told the crowd that “violence is coming” and that “you either fight back or you die”.

Speaking at the rally, he said: “I really think that there’s got to be a change of government in Britain. You can’t – we don’t have another four years, or whenever the next election is, it’s too long. Something’s got to be done. There’s got to be a dissolution of parliament and a new vote held.”

  • IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
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    Doesn’t anyone ever make the connection that BILLIONAIRES SHOULDN’T EXIST

    I don’t mean kill the person or assassinate them … just separate them from their money. The idea of someone owning and controlling so much money and wealth is only detrimental to the rest of humanity.

    Get rid of excessive wealth and you will solve 99.9% of the world’s problems. It won’t create a utopia but it would be a hell of a lot better world than what we have now.

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      We know it can be done and that it works because that was how it was done when things did work, in the post-war years until the 1970s. Anything over an obscene amount was taxed at 90%, and wealth taxes at inheritance would take large chunks of generational wealth above obscene levels.

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      I love you, fellow champion of rational thought. Their money only exists by mutual consent. Their ownership of things only exists by mutual consent. We can revoke our consent. They have built many systems, of government, of policing, around us and around them to protect their money and ownership, but at the end of the day, even these systems are powered by people and only exist by mutual consent. Their defenses require us to be willing to fight each other, that is why they work so hard to keep us willing to fight each other. If we stop fighting each other for long enough, we might just realize they are simply frightened, selfish human individuals just like any of the rest of us. They may be billionaires, but they are not gods, we just cower before them and their systems as if they were.

      We can change this, if we work together, instead of against each other.

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        All power comes from the people. All constructs of law and money are effectively paperwork, just inventions by humans because they were considered useful at the time of implementation.

        Just like paper has no real power and depends only on the one who interprets it, the same is true for the law and even for money. It’s all based on our collective will to recognize and acknowledge these concepts.

        Any way, the paperwork we’ve done (including the books we’ve written) is the actual American dream. The american dream isn’t to buy a house or sth, but to do so in a certain state of mind. I.e. you want to adhere to a great system that makes sense somehow, and be a part of it. That’s why we need to develop new systems, new paperwork, that inspires the people, like a dream, they want to be part of it. That is the key to making a system last.

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        Their money only exists by mutual consent.

        I recall a late-night, alcohol-fueled conversation I once had with a friend who’s an anthropoligist, where we were discussing how pre-industrial societies are often ruled by myths to an extreme extent. She said “western societies have plenty of myths, too, even if you leave out religion.”

        “Yeah, like what?”

        “That money has value.”

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          We live in this huge collective, collaborative and willing self-delusion that, to be fair, was close enough to reality and worked pretty well for many of us for a surprisingly long time. I think there are too many cracks appearing in the illusion now though and thanks to the efforts of the hyper-ultra-wealthy the cognitive dissonance between what the illusion is telling us and what reality is showing us is becoming impossible to ignore.

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      I don’t mean kill the person or assassinate them

      Killing them won’t do any good, if you kill one, another one takes their place. You gotta tax them, because that affects them all equally, so it’s not just “pop one, another appears” game.

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        Removing individual billionaires is a static solution (possibly still needed). But we also need to correct the dynamics that causes new ones to emerge. That’s where taxation policy comes into play.

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      The (not) funny thing is that money is not worth anything objectively, we give it value. We could decide they own nothing.

      (edit; typo missing y at they)

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        Great point and one I always refer to as well … money and wealth only exist because we all believe it to have value and purpose.

        It’s a modern day religion that only exists because we all put our faith and belief in it all.

        And just like every ancient faith and belief … if one day enough of us or all of us stop believing in it, all that wealth and power just evaporates and means nothing.

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          Yeah, it’ll be interested to see what society’s like when the belief in the magic of money goes the way of the belief that a king’s touch can cure scrofula.

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    Stochastic terrorist Nazi and murderous ketamine junkie suffering from the broke mind virus advocating physical violence is creating his own self-fulfilling prophecy.

    Yeah, violence is coming you fuckmook, because you make it necessary.

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      broke mind virus

      Oooooh, I like that! Their favorite phrase, turned around and reclaimed, and made fit to highlight their damage. This needs to spread.

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    Is he English? Why is he trying to influence another country’s politics?

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    Since he’s fine for people calling out for drastic actions in things they have no business in, I’m calling out for psychiatrists to lock Musk up in a padded cell.

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    Tommy Robinson

    That’s the name he took on to come across more blue collar. His real name is:

    Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon

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    He’s a foreign fascist interfering in British politics. Shut down all his business operations in Britain and expropriate the assets.

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    We should make a rule that billionaires are only allowed to destabilize one democratic nation state at a time.

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    “We’ll coup whoever we want! Deal with it!” - actual Elon quote.

    I’d imagine there are many ways people might “deal with it”, unfortunately for him.

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    This is why you must never buy a Tesla.

    The Board is tripping over itself to give this guy a Trillion dollar payout.

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      From a company who is intrinsic value cannot exceed 10 billion, a lot less now that the alienated half of the western world with his Nazi bullshit.

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          If he can’t increase Tesla sales then it’s not a raise, It’s a pay cut.

          You know what to do.

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    Cool. Charge him with treason and throw him in jail if he ever decides to pay the U.K a visit again, then.

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        An interesting point - I checked, and as far as I can tell, non-citizens can be charged with treason in the U.K, so long as they are considered under the jurisdiction of the U.K - “alien residents” for example are covered, and probably temporary visitors to the country as well. It would likely be up to judicial interpretation whether attempting the coup virtually would qualify, but I’d assume it might.

        The serious take would be that this comment is too mild to qualify for treason, but one could always hope.

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          Too mild when said by Musk. Now imagine if a queer colored disabled Muslim immigrant said the same thing. They could definitely make these very words count as treason but fear repercussions and bad international press when Musk is the target. You know even his ex, Trump, would come back running to save him from the evil colonialists.