• ripcord@lemmy.world
    42·
    2 days ago

    What does this have to do with AI or with bubblesort?

    This looks like just a list sorted alphabetically. Which unfortunately doesn’t work for the use case. But has been a problem in computing for like literally 70 years.

    • a4ng3l@lemmy.world
      122·
      2 days ago

      But your explanation is sooooo much less trendy… we’re back to reddit karma bullshit :-(

      • Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        4·
        2 days ago

        Errors such as this have been occurring by human hands for decades, while adversarial networks and language models capable of making the same error have only been available for a few years. As such, attributing all such errors to AI is foolish, as humans have already proven capable of making the same types of mistakes.

      • chuckleslord@lemmy.world
        2·
        2 days ago

        No, it isn’t. The neutral network was invented in 1943. The first digital computer (what we would think of as a computer) was invented in 1938. The Turing Machine concept was created in 1936.

        • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
          4·
          2 days ago

          Actually trainable neural networks were way later than that, even.

          Then again, AI = neural network is very recent definition, like just a few years, which is probably what OP meant.

  • kickeriekuh@discuss.tchncs.de
    11·
    2 days ago

    In German, numbers are spoken from left to right, as in English, but ones and tens are always swapped. So 23 becomes three, twenty, and 135 becomes one hundred, five, and thirty:

    • Achter Stock (8)
    • Achtzehnter Stock (18)
    • Achtundzwanzigster Stock (28)
    • Dreizehnter Stock (13)
    • Dreiundzwanzigster Stock (23)
    • Dritter Stock (3)
    • Einundzwanzigster Stock (21)
    • Elfter Stock (11)
    • Erdgeschoss (0)
    • Erster Stock (1)
    • …

    Oh, and the first floor is called the ground floor and is not counted.

  • balsoft@lemmy.ml
    21·
    3 days ago
    ❯ touch `seq 1 100`
❯ ls
1    18  27  36  45  54  63  72  81  90
10   19  28  37  46  55  64  73  82  91
100  2	 29  38  47  56  65  74  83  92
11   20  3   39  48  57  66  75  84  93
12   21  30  4	 49  58  67  76  85  94
13   22  31  40  5   59  68  77  86  95
14   23  32  41  50  6	 69  78  87  96
15   24  33  42  51  60  7   79  88  97
16   25  34  43  52  61  70  8	 89  98
17   26  35  44  53  62  71  80  9   99

    (Do I need to tell you how many times I fucked up like this myself?)

    • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
      5·
      3 days ago

      Those are file names, there’s no reason to assume that they would be numerical which is why ls does the right thing.

      I’m of the opinion that if you want to store numbers as strings and also sort them, you give them a fixed length and leading zeroes.

      • balsoft@lemmy.ml
        2·
        3 days ago

        I agree that it does “the right thing”, that is it behaves as documented. But that “right thing” could be surprising to a human.

        There’s ls -v which does “version sort” which would seem like a more reasonable default, at least for human consumption. I know it’s impossible to change now because a bajillion tools all over the place depend on the sort order.

        However new tools like eza do this by default:

        ❯ eza
1  6   11  16  21  26  31  36  41  46  51  56  61  66  71  76  81  86  91  96
2  7   12  17  22  27  32  37  42  47  52  57  62  67  72  77  82  87  92  97
3  8   13  18  23  28  33  38  43  48  53  58  63  68  73  78  83  88  93  98
4  9   14  19  24  29  34  39  44  49  54  59  64  69  74  79  84  89  94  99
5  10  15  20  25  30  35  40  45  50  55  60  65  70  75  80  85  90  95  100