I know it’s not 1:1, but it’s just a thought I had in the shower.

  • Pearl@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Religions are artificial. Trans people aren’t.

    Societies that embrace science and progress will always be cool places to live (on average)

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      The nazis’ definition of Jewish people had hardly anything to do with religion. They persecuted them based on lineage and pseudoscientific horseshit that was supposed to identify Jewish “genes”…

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      Yea, religion is made up and should be ignored. Just like currency, boarders, sovereignty, human rights, the concept of law, literature, art, and language itself. Brilliant.

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    I mean there were other genocides through history like the Natives in US. Victims don’t usually get a nation.

    Also if you were looking for a good parallelism between US and Nazi germany, here is where they put asylum-seeker immigrants from few months up to years.

    Migrant detention centers

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    I doubt, it’s going to work the same, because trans folks can pretend to be the gender they were assigned at birth for a long time. They won’t be happy and they might want to leave the country either way, but if they do so, they’re less likely to bring along their whole family, since those won’t be persecuted.

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      The holocaust absolutely facilitated the creation of Israel. The Balfour declaration and Theodor Herzl are necessary, but not sufficient. In the aftermath of WWII and the Shoah, there was a need for mass Jewish migration. Meanwhile, “good” countries like the US and UK had strict immigration policies explicitly to exclude Jews. A ship full of Jews fleeing the Nazis in '39 were rejected by the US, Canada, and the UK. Eventually they were returned to Germany. (the embarrassment of this episode is why countries are supposed to give shelter to anyone fleeing persecution until the matter is adjudicated) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis

      And that’s the part of history that’s left out. Western Europe and N America were happy to resettle the Jews, anywhere else. Support of Israel by the West cannot be understood without acknowledging the massive amount of antisemitism in basically all of Western Civilization.

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        There was already hundred thousands of jews migrating to palestine to force a state before the holocust. Read about the Aliyahs. The zionists militaries also was created before the holocust. I don’t think that if the holocust didn’t happen that the colonization project would have failed