Researchers from Pritzker Molecular Engineering, under the guidance of Prof. Jeffrey Hubbell, demonstrated that their compound can eliminate the autoimmune response linked to multiple sclerosis. Researchers at the University of Chicago’s Pritzker School of Molecular Engineering (PME) have developed

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    I’ve been following cures like this for years. There are three candidates in phase 2 trials right now that appear to work, they’re mostly figuring out the doses needed and there’s a big question on how long they last. Hopefully permanent but we don’t know for sure.

    Diabetics have just been so beaten down by this whole thing. I was told the cure was 10 years away 40 years ago. Even if the technology described here works we could be another 15 years before we see it. Researchers said it could be here as soon as 5 years, which is true if unrealistically optimistic. I believe the cure is coming but I’m not holding my breath until I’m actually in front of a doctor about to receive the cure whatever it happens to be.

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      It’s a clash between scientists needing to be optimistic about their findings to maintain funding and real people needing it asap. We need to fund more medical research outside of for-profit corporations and increasingly expensive academia

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        Imagine if there was a global fund for disease cures that all the industrialized nations poured their money and resources into.

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          If you’re talking about The Global Fund, they only attack very specific diseases, mostly eradicated in industrialized nations but persist due to poverty (like malaria).

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            Which is silly because eradicating them in some places while leaving them elsewhere just costs more money long term.

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              I wonder to what degree anti-western sentiments impact the delivery of certain treatments. Thinking about the distrust I read about after a fake vaccination campaign was used to take out bin Laden, and other distrust and anti-messaging that has to be contended with. It sounds so impossibly frustrating to have the added burden against such basic medicine.

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            I’m curious how we will ever be advance to the point of being a post-scarcity space faring civilization if we don’t take these sorts of steps because we’re too busy wondering about what might go wrong

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              I highly doubt we’ll get to a post-scarcity space faring civilization stage. More likely, we’re in the midst of the “self-destruction” part of the Great Filter.

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          I hear this argument all the time, but the majority of the major research comes from the US [1]. My inclination is that, because the US is for-profit, the cures are developed faster and the science is here. The socialized nations lack, it’s a fact, and it’s certainly not for a lack of resources

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        It seems like the COViD model worked pretty well. One of these days I’d like to better understand the process, but I believe it was something like ….

        Vaccine developed by private companies but with a lot of government funding but more importantly, massive contracts at a fixed price.

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        Outside of for-profit corporations and outside of academia? So neither the private sector nor the public sector? Who should do medical research then?

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      It’s like all the revolutionary battery technologies, computer storage technologies, fusion, cure for cancer, anything with graphene in it, cure for immune diseases and all that. People just love to write clickbait articles about this stuff.

      Developing these ideas in the lab takes decades, and turning those ideas into actual products takes even more time. When you see articles about these topics, you can be pretty sure you’ll never hear about it again.

      Edit: Just to be clear: technology is going forward all the time, but news articles tend to fucus on things that are interesting or fascianting, and extrapolate from there. The technologies that actually end up becoming widespread might not be interesting enough to write about.

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        The real reason it takes time is because we try not to harm people even in experimental drug testing. It would be much faster to simply toss shit at the wall and see what sticks, but that’s not exactly humane. So we have to find analogues that hopefully mimick humans will enough, but they don’t really work well. So it takes lots of time to build up enough evidence with those preliminary tests to convince the safety board to allow human trials. Then trials have to slowly scale up to limit the amount of people harmed by unforseen effects with a lot of time between as the safety board reviews the previous results before allowing the next test.

        It’s all good to do, but it does make development frustratingly slow sometimes. Especially when people are actively dying waiting for the new drugs.

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        Sort of, they did find a covid vaccine pretty quickly. I’m hoping this is part of that research.

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          mRNA vaccines had been in development for about 20 years prior to 2019. We were lucky.

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              It’s difficult to pin down “when did mRNA research begin?” but, a pretty good date is to say, “The 1990s.” But you could go back as far as 1960 or 1970 if you were being technical.

              https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/the-long-history-of-mrna-vaccines has a good write-up.

              mRNA technology is a HUGE breakthrough. Like I said, we were lucky it was essentially ready and able to help with the COVID vaccine development when it was.

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                Wait, are inverse vaccines the same as mRNA? That’s what I was wondering about. Have the inverse vaccines been on the research agenda for awhile? As I said before, I’m hoping the mRNA breakthroughs help the reverse vaccines go quicker.

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                  Nope. In this case they figured out that you can “tag” molecules with N-acetylgalactosamine, and that convinces the Liver to tolerate the molecule that causes the immune reaction and signal the immune system. My wife has a major anaphylactic reaction to certain shrimp and this would be a game changer.

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      A few people asked for more information about these trials that I referred to above. In theory if you can cure one autoimmune disease you should be able to use the same method to cure any of them. Obviously we don’t know that for certain and diseases like Diabetes has the extra step of inducing the growth of new beta cells to produce insulin (more on that below)

      That said, the three trials I referred to are Celiac specific. I have this and T1D so those are the two I’ve been following most closely, but I definitely dive into news on ms or any of the other autoimmune diseases.

      Note: all of these entered phase 2 this year. They are in the EARLY EARLY stages of that phase, so we should see results in 2025/26 for these. I am also ignoring any trial not in phase 2. Also note that several diabetes and ms cures are essentially variants of these, and many of them are running in parallel.

      KAN-101: This is from Anokion and happens to have a trial in my area, hence it’s the one I know the most about. This one works by targetting the liver where the relevant immune cells are produced. Even in their phase 1 trial they found that patients had a dose dependent reduction in IL-1 (a cytokine that your body releases in the presence of gluten if you’re celiac). As with all these trials they need to determine what dose is needed to be a full cure and is it permanent?

      TAK-101: This is an MS cure that was adapted for celiac disease, originally developed by ImmunisanT. They also have several other variants of this one, including T1D. Unfortunately their website seems to be down. Takeda is handling the clinical trials here and last I heard they’re waiting for the celiac results before pushing forward with the others, but they expect them to move quickly at that point. Here’s a video by one of the researchers behind this.

      TPM502: I know the least about this one, it’s from Topas Therapeutics and they recently announced the start of phase 2 trials in Finland, Norway, the Netherlands and Sweden. [more]

      I should emphasize that there is no guarantee any of these treatments will work and everyone is tired of the latest “breathrough” that we never hear about again. Some of the trails above had to go back to the drawing board after hitting phase 2, TAK-101 is a newer generation of “Nexxvax” which if you google that you’ll find articles about its cancellation.

      Then Diabetes has the problem of beta cells needing to be restored or replaced. That’s looking feasible either by transplanting adult cells, stimulating the growth of new ones using stem cells or a similar concept. One proposal hides the beta cells from your immune system entirely inside a scaffold. That last one is more of a new treatment than a cure, but it definitely beats what we have now.

      The good news is that work IS being done in this area, progress is being made, and I know at least with KAN-101 they have demonstrated it showing results. The cure is coming. Even if most or all of these trails fails the fact that they’ve seen the results that they have is still really good news.

      Again, it’s coming. It’s just not in a hurry.

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        Thank you for this. I have T1D and it seems like every other day I’m hearing about a new cure for diabetes and other autoimmune diseases. Good to know that this isn’t just more clickbait. Still not getting my hopes up yet but I’ll be interested to see where this goes.

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      I was thinking of forwarding this to a friend with type 1 and remember the tale of misery from the last one I sent. Exactly what you said. She’s 38. Don’t get her hopes up.

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        I’ll come back in a few hours when I’m on my computer and give you the list. I’m sure others will be interested in it as well.

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            I posted more information above in this comment: https://lemm.ee/comment/3624282

            TAK-101 is a celiac variant of a (currently paused) MS vaccine. I linked a video on that in my other post that may interest you. The video predates the decision to focus on just one disease. Basically the first iteration of their technology wasn’t effective, but based on the theory that if it works on one autoimmune disease it should work on all of them, they’ve switched their focus to celiac because it’s easier to test the efficacy. Just measure the amount of IL-2 during a gluten exposure. Also it’s cheaper to run one trial than the 5 they had before for various diseases.

            The good news is progress is being made on this. But don’t expect it any time soon until you can actually book an appointment to get the procedure.

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              Thank you. I appreciate you taking the time to respond with more info.

              I wasn’t expecting much so no worries and not expecting anything soon. I’ve seen these things for a couple decades now. But this one is interesting. So again thank you.

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      What phase 2 specifically if you don’t mind sharing? They mention in this article starting with a phase 1 for celiac and then a phase 1 for MS.

      I’ve also seen so many of these over a couple decades now. I have RA and MS and often times while hope can be important. As Red said, hope is a dangerous thing and can drive a man insane.

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        I also have really complicated relationship with hope. Mainly, I try not to hope as my body seems to be insanely problematic. I am disabled with multiple autoimmune diseases and genetic syndrome. While objectively I find the advancement in treatment interesting and amazing, I personally try not to hope. It is absolutely exhausting to get your hopes up only for the other shoe to drop.

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          Over the years you learn to pick and choose which ones to even read about.

          My favorites are when actual new meds are introduced to patients and the majority of the article talks about how much money they expect it to make for the pharmaceutical company.

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    Our immune systems are both one of the most fascinating things about us and for those with autoimmune issues like myself, the most annoying. Always good to see articles like this and I’m glad this focused on the actual science.

    I’d love to sign up for the trial if they ever test it for vitiligo. There are wayyy more serious autoimmune issues that can and should be tested first for those truly suffering. Mine is just “hey look at weird color boy”.

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      Immune systems are wild, and it’s also wild how they can go spectacularly wrong in different ways. Autoimmune diseases run in families, but not necessarily the same disease. My great-aunt has Crohn’s. My dad and big brother both have segmental vitiligo (dad, just on the back of his neck and a shoulder, my brother on one arm), but my immune system decided my thyroid was the enemy. Like. Not fair, body. 🤣

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    I will click on this headline when the link is to Nature or Scientific American or the Mayo Clinic. Thank you very much.

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        Thanks!

        Hm, well the full paper is behind a subscription wall but the abstract sounds much more modest:

        Our findings show that pGal–antigen therapy invokes mechanisms of immune tolerance to resolve antigen-specific inflammatory T-cell responses and suggest that the therapy may be applicable across autoimmune diseases.

        “May be applicable” —> “can completely reverse” ???

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    My wife has MS. And even though we are of course far from being at a point where the disease will be cured, articles like this give hope.

    There are a lot of smart people who are dealing with the topic. Hopefully they can get something solid done soon!

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      MS, ALS, and Alzheimer’s are probably the diseases I hope they cure the most at some point. Those 3 are just so ruthless and so hard on everyone. Every time I see something like this I’m super excited but I also feel like I’ve been hearing stuff like this for decades now

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    Unpopular opinion: Anyone who refused the COVID vaccine should be banned from getting this.

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      Honestly asking, why even bring this up? What does this have to do with the topic of the post?

      All you do is start an argument and divert away from the topic that was supposed to be discussed.

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          Just spiteful.

          Wanting to have two seperate conversations about two seperate vaccines is “spiteful”? Really?

          And ironic if you really want to claim to care about public health

          And I do care about public health, allot. For the record, I’m fully vaccinated.

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          Science isn’t a religion. It’s a process. Just because it’s called a vaccine doesn’t mean its safe. You can be anti-this-particular-vaccine without being anti-all-vaccines.

          (Edit - I misremembered what was hinky. For posterity, I’m restructuring my comment and preserving the bad take struck out below.)

          In the case of the covid vaccines, that process was intentionally minimized as to bring the vaccine to market faster.

          The vaccine did have benefits. It also had complications

          that instead of being found out in trials were found out after release.

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            It also had complications that instead of being found out in trials were found out after release.

            Few of which were serious, and the ones that were serious weren’t any more common than the rare serious side effects of previous vaccines.

            Just because it’s called a vaccine doesn’t mean its safe.

            Well they were/are safe, so I don’t know what your point is.

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              There were side effects that were serious. The vaccines and boosters effected different age groups differently. Some age groups were more likely to develop serious side effects.

              Covid effected different age groups differently. Some age groups were more likely to develop serious complications.

              In the instances where the risk of serious side effect was more likely than the risk of serious complication, at least one of the boosters was more likely to be bad for the patient.

              If it is more likely to cause harm, I can understand not wanting to take that version.

              My point is it’s ok to refuse medicine based on medical evidence.

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            They did not skimp on the process with the Covid vaccines. Not with the big ones like Moderna or Pfizer, anyway. They accelerated the process, but they did not skip steps. They did steps in parallel.

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              Agreed. I misremembered what the issue was. It’s been a second.

              The issue was balancing risk of serious side effect versus risk of serious complication.

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            By refusing COViD vaccine despite all evidence showing it safe and effective, you put others in danger. I agree on being spiteful: you endanger me and my family because you don’t trust science , then you don’t deserve the personal benefit of science treating your auto-immune disease

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              I didn’t refuse the vaccine. Get the fuck out of here.

              E: And all evidence didn’t show it was safe. There were risks. In the case of the vaccine itself, iirc, the risks of serious side effect were less than the risk of serious complication from covid. The primary 2-stage vaccine is a good call.

              I did refuse a particular booster because the available data on it showed for my demographic the risks outweighed the potential gains; it was more likely to harm me than help me.

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                And all evidence didn’t show it was safe. There were risks. In the case of the vaccine itself, iirc, the risks of serious side effect were less than the risk of serious complication from covid.

                Just wondering how you justify saying garbage like that when people died, have serious heart conditions, taste problems, balancing issues, etc. from catching COVID?

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                  I don’t understand your comment. To put it another way, vaccine was less bad than covid. Or Covid was worse than the vaccine. Do you still object with the simplified phrasing?

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            I believe the COVID vaccine trials were the largest ever done, or close. And most of the “complications” were simply the same issues of “long COVID” but scaled down significantly.

            Anyway, if people were only against the COVID vaccine, then that’s better than more broad anti medical stances. And I think it would be stupid to deny someone medicine for almost any reason, least of all that.

            It really is / was a difficult information landscape.

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              Forgive my ignorance on the subject. Instead of reading studies directly, I used the opinions of doctors quoting studies to inform my opinions. If memory serves, for the first booster, it was more likely that young men would develop serious complications from the vaccine booster than if they developed covid instead. I think they were heart complications.

              So if a drug is shown to be more detrimental than helpful, why is it bad to refuse it, or ask for a different drug, or for more investigation?

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            I wish I didn’t have to encounter people like you. You give medical science a bad name, and anti vaxers confidence.

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              How do I give medical science a bad name? Do I speak for the field?

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        You don’t want to get a vaccine to help others + yourself, you shouldn’t be allowed to “believe in science” when it benefits you and only you.

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          You don’t want to get a vaccine to help others + yourself, you shouldn’t be allowed to “believe in science” when it benefits you and only you.

          Such a non-sequitur answer. And for the record, I’m fully vaccinated.

          Go somewhere else to talk about your favorite vaccine. Don’t DERAIL this conversation about a completely different vaccine.

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            Don’t DERAIL this conversation about a completely different vaccine.

            I was replying to a question. Please follow the context thread, or go away.

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              Don’t DERAIL this conversation about a completely different vaccine.

              I was replying to a question. Please follow the context thread, or go away.

              Here’s what you said, context wise …

              Unpopular opinion: Anyone who refused the COVID vaccine should be banned from getting this.

              You weren’t responding to a question, you were just offering your own opinion, an opinion that was different from the topic and the context of the conversation being discussed, and hence my reply to you, calling you out for it.

              You’re being intellectually dishonest.

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                Ya, I am allowed to post my opinion. I don’t think people who refuse a vaccine that can help save others should be allowed to receive a vaccine that benefits only them.

                If you’re upset, you’re part of the problem. Not my fault. If you don’t want to see my comments, which I am free to post, block me.

                In fact, don’t worry about it. I will block you, because your reply is insane. Literally complaining to me because I posted my opinion, and then calling me intellectually dishonest. Nutters.

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                  Ya, I am allowed to post my opinion.

                  No one says you’re not. The only point I was making is you’re posting your opinion in the wrong place and you’re ‘muddying the waters’ of the conversation.

                  That point was said straightforward to you, but you chose to ignore it and try to move the goal posts onto something else.

                  If you’re upset, you’re part of the problem. Not my fault.

                  I’m not upset at all, I was just asking a question, why are you expressing an opinion that doesn’t match the conversation being had and that you know would be inflammatory and pollute the conversation.

                  You keep trying to warp the meaning of my initial critique of your initial opinion into something else to win an Internet argument.

                  You continue to be intellectually dishonest.

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          6g comes out, carriers push everyone to get new 6g phones as the 5g networks get worked over. Bunch of vaxxers just walking around like “Nah, mine’s fine. Why spend hundreds on a new one? 🤷” AT&T and Samsung suddenly sponsoring research to undo vaccinations and turn the frogs hetero 🤣

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            You’re going to need a booster every year to continue getting good reception or more g’s

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              [Punny jokeness] Now that I think about it, isn’t there a limit to how many g’s a human body can handle? We’re all gonna have to train like fighter pilots or switch our cell network naming scheme 🤔

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      Not that i necessarily support this policy, but to the people who are acting all offended at the idea you might be cut off from future scientific advances because of you’re hurting the public good (“Consequences? For my actions?!”): You could just get the vaccine.

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      People should be allowed full decision over the treatments they want to get, no matter how arbitrary, stupid, or contradictory. To suggest otherwise is a horrific dystopia

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        Bullshit. You don’t get a new kidney and get to keep on drinking.

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          No, he’s right. They SHOULD be allowed full decision over the treatments they want to get.

          However, those decisions should not be free from the rules we as a society have put in place.

          Us banning COVID vaccine deniers this treatment could be a good compromise. They freely get to decide, and they also suffer the consequences of that decision. Win/Win.

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            this is honestly why I thought vaccine cards to sit at restaurants, attend concerts… These are good ideas.

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              We do this in Australia for kindergarten, if your kids aren’t vaccinated you don’t get the childcare subsidy.

              For reference, the subsidy can be the difference between paying $200 a week and $1200 a week.

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              Right. I don’t care if COViD deniers chose not to get a vaccine. I care that they endanger people who want or need to be more careful. Let them make the choice, as long as the rest of us can choose not to be exposed to them

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                So people with autoimmune deficiency can choose to just hide indoors or die, because selfish pond scum spend too much time on Facebook?

                Nah, that’s the wrong way around. Meet the basic expectations of society or accept you will be excluded from it.

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                  Literally me. I’ve been locked inside since 2020 because I had a double lung transplant and COVID will most likely cause my lungs to reject, and I die.

                  Assholes refusing to put a damn n95 mask on has pretty much thrown my life away. My transplanted lungs wont last forever. My final years are locked indoors because a fucking mask is political.

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          Do you mean liver? That’s the organ alcohol primarily harms. Kidneys are somewhat secondary.

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          Yeah, because kidneys are a rare and valuable thing what drinking would prevent from working

          That makes zero sense for your petty ass sense of vengeance by denying people easily manufactured treatments because they turned down a vaccine you think they should have gotten.

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            That most of society thinks they should have gotten. That results in other people dying if they don’t get it.

            GTFO of here acting like your right to a fist doesn’t end where my nose begins.

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                so·ci·e·ty

                /səˈsīədē/

                noun

                the aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community.

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                  Thank you for proving my point.

                  To be clear, societies exist regardless of the existence of states. The fact that states are trying to control societies and communities doesn’t make any state “The Society”… Society is people.

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        Yes, you do get to decide the treatments you want to get. Nobody is forcing any treatments on you. But just like freedom of speech, it doesn’t mean freedom from consequences of that speech. Too stupid and didn’t want to participate in saving your fellow human? Well, said fellow humans don’t want to participate in saving you either.

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        Oh no, the dystopia of having to get a vaccine to prevent the spread of dangerous disease to your fellow human beings. The horror.

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          The dystopia of arbitrarily punishing people with inability to get things that would literally cure their diabetes because they refused a vaccine

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            Imagine having diabetes, but refusing to get vaccinated so you’d be eligible for a cure.

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      This just got me and I needed a good laugh so thank you.

      Going on my seventht day of COVID, getting worse, and my scumbag immune system has decided this isn’t nearly as interesting as the large intestine and everything south of it that it took a few years back.

      C’mon, little help here?!

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        I got COVID before the vaccines came out and I was surprisingly unfased by it, I was iffy for a few days but besides not being able to taste or smell for about 6 months I was fine. My wife however had to be hospitalised and she’s healthier than I am so I feel like I got very lucky.

        I hope you get through it quickly and start feeling better!

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          Thank you, I had it before and pulled through ok, I started feeling better after an epic nap today.

          Must have been terrifying for you while your wife was ill.

          A few months before anyone even heard of COVID a friend of ours who was a runner and what not was in the ICU with double pneumonia for a long time and they had no idea at all what it was. We all assume it was COVID now but no one said it was (it’s not like they could have tested her for it). Pretty wild.

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      Not gonna lie, I’m gonna be salty for a long time if a shot can fix my Crohn’s, since about 6 years ago I got a permanent ostomy bag -_- can’t give me back my ass hole.

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      Right?! Just a way to be able to live somewhat normally would be amazing!

      I wonder if it’ll be an anti-autoimmunity for life, or if we’d have to get regular doses like with Remicade.

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          I’m good. I’m in and out in minutes. Yes, I get less reading done, but I have way more time for other activities.

          Edit: plus road trips are so much better, no more dealing with horrifyingly gross gas station bathrooms.

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    It’s tough to see promising treatments and cures for Type 1. There have been huge inroads for treatment but a cure always seems just around the corner. Here’s to hope for all the Type 1’s and thank you for all the people looking to find that cure.

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      Lol, just around the corner is right. My doctor, waaaay back in the 90s, said a cure was 10-15 years away. I think it’s just language they use. Especially when they are talking to the extremely sick/depressed who just learned what they have.

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        It usually is that close, but that’s assuming unlimited funding… Imagine if anything else had the funding that COVID did.

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    I have MS, I’ll go wild once I hear it’s approved. Until then I’ll save my energy.

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    I just got slapped with an auto immune problem with my thyroid. It’s inflamed and will never go back to normal. So far I only have a fat neck and I’m stable but at any moment I might develop hypothyroidism because of this. I can’t wait for this to work.

    Edit: having said that… the source of this post has been known for clickbait bullshit articles so maybe I shouldn’t hold my breath :(

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      Take hyperthyroidism seriously. Left untreated it will change your personality and those changes will be permanent even after you kill your thyroid.

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        So far my levels are okay and I’ll have to do half yearly checkups to catch it changing. But from what I’m seeing it’s mostly an incrrased risk, not a death sentence just yet

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          That’s good 😊. My ex wife had graves. She is a women and has always been heavy so Dr’s ignores the symptoms for nearly a decade.

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            Yeah that sucks. Really shows its a tug of war between doctors and patients, where patients get to deal with doctors that don’t care / have prejudices that cause misdiagnoses, while doctors have to deal with patients who think they know better than the doctor… I’m happy that for the moment I’m fine

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      Non-hodgkins lymphoma here. My immune system literally wants to kill me. I wonder if this could do a “full reset”.

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      Hypo here since just a couple years. I just take Eutirox daily and monitor my TSH levels each year. Other than that it’s been fine, no quality of life issues for me luckily yet

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        Great to hear!

        I’m not even there yet, just have an inflamed thyroid, but really not much I can do about it

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    I get to find out if I have ulcerative colitis or Crohns in a few days. This gives me hope that even if I have one of them, I won’t have to take meds for the rest of my life, or worse, have parts of me removed.

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      They would be able to develop this for both diseases, it was discussed on the UC subreddit… but it’s still a whole ago.

      My wife has UC, the meds aren’t so bad for her 🙂 you got this!

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      I have UC, gone through some tough (shitty 😏) times, but now in remission for 2 years with Vedolizumab (Entyvio). Keep pushing for new meds if the current one doesn’t work properly!

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    My wife has Type 1 diabetes and I have UC.

    This would be a god-send, but Im not gonna hold my breath. Good news is always a lie.

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      I’ve had Type 1 Diabetes since I was 6. It’s always 20 years away. I’m 32 now.

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      Very often, headlines about new, revolutionary medical breakthroughs actually do result in breakthrough treatments for specific niche disease scenarios. For instance, cancer deaths are down roughly 1/3 over the past 30 years.

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    Let’s not put the cart before the horse.

    … But also I’d like to point out that celiac is an autoimmune disease, so for some people this may be a vaccine against gluten free bread.

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      My son (who is 9) was diagnosed with celiac when he didn’t grow from age 2-3 (gluten -> guts make enzyme to digest it -> immune system sees enzyme making cells as invaders -> immune system attacks cells -> intestines swell -> nutrition stops being absorbed). He was effectively starving despite eating. He’s on track now as we have a strict gluten free household, and the fad people have created a market demand which makes companies want to make products that give him options…but a treatment like this would be life changing.

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        The good thing for him is that he was so young when he was diagnosed that he probably doesn’t know anything else. Saying this from personal experience as I was diagnosed at 14 months in mid 80s. Of course, something like this would be amazing as I can’t tolerate even small amounts of accidental gluten but as I don’t know anything else I can’t even imagine anything else.

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          Aye, the difference between me, diagnosed in preteens, and my friend, diagnosed at 3, is immense. I still have the odd craving and sometimes indulge with stupid results. She? Never even crosses her mind.

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      so for some people this may be a vaccine against gluten free bread

      The most marvelous medicine in the history of humanity.

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      … initial phase I safety trials have already been carried out in people with celiac disease …

      Not being snarky, just relating the article to your statement.