Yes, Affinity really is free. You can use every tool in the Pixel, Vector, and Layout studios, plus all of the customization and export features, as much as you want, with no restrictions or payment needed. If you’re on a Canva premium plan, you’ll also be able to unlock Canva’s powerful AI tools within Affinity.
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AI training?
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About a year ago, Canva tried to raise their prices significantly.
I forget exactly, but I pay for an account and can have 5 people on my team. They said they would start charging for each team member or something like that.
One person said their cot went up from like $100 to $600, maybe the numbers are off, but it’s close to how severe there increase was.
There was so much backlash over it that they decided to keep the old pricing structure.
So they’re planning to hook people in with freebies then boil the frogs a little slower.
So they’re planning to hook people in with freebies then boil the frogs a little slower.
If you never pay a dime anyway, it’s kinda irrelevant how much the AI features cost, no?
Sometimes companies gradually reduce the usefulness of the free product to incentivize people to pay. They may do this.
Sometimes companies gradually reduce the usefulness of the free product to incentivize people to pay.
If they’ll at some point revert to the old Affinity business model, there is really not a downside, isn’t it? Pay for Affinity and get to use Affinity is what V1 and V2 already did. But the comment by Neon Nova was about the pricing of Canva’s AI service and the cost of that is completely irrelevant to “traditional” Affinity users because we’re not interested in that feature anyway and – at least right now – they rule out any subscription model for Affinity itself.
They may do this.
Well, that’s speculation and reduction of the Affinity feature set is a completely different matter anyway. While I’m not fully on board with the GUI changes – changing canvas size has been moved to a weird sub menu, for example – but in my view I got a major upgrade for free that also reduced the disk footprint from 9GB to 3GB (Mac version, didn’t look at the size on Windows before uninstalling V2). So at this very moment it’s a useful upgrade for people who used V2 anyway.
AI training?
When created a Canva account for Affinity 3, the setting “train AI using information about your general usage which includes fonts, colours, search queries and instructions you input. This does NOT include any of your uploaded images, videos, or designs” was on, “Allow your content to improve AI” was off.
For now it’s configurable at https://www.canva.com/account/privacy-preferences and I think they’ll have a hard landing on the face if they ever change it.
…I want free hugs!
I’ve been a paying affinity customer for years, and I’m not signing up for Canva.
I get it’s “free”, but I’m sketched out.
I’m not buying that it’s free unless it’s FOSS almost ever. Maybe it’s just a “create an account so we can collect data on you” deal, but that still isn’t free.
Yes, you have to create an account in Canva and turn off a bunch of tracking that is set on by default. There’s even a record setting that is off at the time of me discovering it, but that just made me nervous.
I recently downloaded it to try it out but i’m thinking of just torrenting adobe tbh.
Oh god, how are they financing its development? Selling my personal data? Training AI on my data? Nagware? Not giving us a Linux version, ever?
I suspect that both they are using Affinity as a gateway drug For Canva Pro, and are super happy about taking even more customers from Adobe.
The best possible scenario is that they’re just using it to entice people to pay for a premium subscription and will leave it that way. But the chances are that once they’ve pulled enough people in with the offer of free software, they’ll alter the deal.
Linux became so good at emulating windows apps, it now runs some of them better than windows itself (higher fps, lower power draw), so eventually their will be a port.
Given that these non native ports run in containers/bottles/whatever and internet access is often limited by default. However internet access is the key for their new business modell.
Basically Linux users will get the same or better product, without the drawbacks, which reminds me of pirated movies, where only the people actually buying it were made to sit through unskipable commercials.
Sadly Affinity Studio isn’t one of them - it runs barely, if at all in emulators and believe me we tried. Especially for larger files it’s still unusable.
Oh god, how are they financing its development?
Canva’s AI features are a subscription service. Existing Affinty features are now free.
What if not enough people pay for the AI features? Will Affinity enshittify?
Also, are these features going to be littered across the UI as greyed out buttons that show a popover prompting you to get a Canvas subscription when you hover them? That’s basically ads baked into the UI.
What if not enough people pay for the AI features? Will Affinity enshittify?
There’s always the option to go back to being a regular paid product.
Also, are these features going to be littered across the UI as greyed out buttons that show a popover prompting you to get a Canvas subscription when you hover them?
Not sure why you use future tense because the new version is out now and you can just take a look at it yourself.
It’s now an all in one UI and no longer different applications for vector graphics, photo editing, and layout. You can switch between different UIs on the fly and Canva AI is just one of those and one you can even disable:
I don’t own a Windows or Mac machine, I have no idea what the current product looks like, but I’ve been following Affinity for a while in the hopes that I can eventually buy their product with money.
Enshittification countdown begins now
It started when they bought affinity.
“Free”
It’s weird that I can’t just login using my existing Affinity ID, also Canva’s privacy policy states clear as day under section 2 that they’ll use your data to train AI models, and that policy applies to Affinity.
Edit: Data collection within Affinity seems to be opt-in for now.
I see someone on masto saying its sending something out to them over internet even when opted out
Just usage pings or actual data?
No full pcap or anakysis so no idea
Some switches were set to on for me under https://www.canva.com/account/privacy-preferences
I need to make sure I have my old Affinity installers. I’m sure I won’t be able to activate in a few years because they decide to take down the authentication server.
This is a good point. I’m going to download all the installers they have today and ferret them away just in case.
Have you managed to find them?
You have to log in to your old Affinity account, and from there you can find the download links.
Thanks I’ll Make sure to try this as I want to keep an apple silicon version of the installation for when I update my mac.
If you’re on a Canva premium plan, you’ll also be able to unlock Canva’s powerful AI tools within Affinity.
So freemium, not free. Which is also fine, just saying.
Edit: Needs new Canva account. My Serif account didn’t migrate. Be sure to turn off BS under https://www.canva.com/account/privacy-preferences
Oh no. Affinity was a good paid alternative to the adobe shite, now this is going to turn down a subscription route after they get people hooked, isnt it?
I use this at a center I volunteer at that works with the mentally disabled. Unsurprisingly, a lot of those people are old. Surprisingly, Canva is simple enough that I’ve been able to train the elderly, of all people, to use the program to make fliers or three-fold pamphlets for themselves. It’s a good program for what it does, and the center pays for a premium subscription, so it’s not something I personally need to worry much about.
Honestly, I’m fine with this in terms of the program’s functionality, as long as Canva does’t fuck with its user interface. It is pretty simple and intuitive, and I’d argue that the UI is quite possibly one of its strongest assets, seconded only by the massive amount of options/elements you can add to your project. And it’s already apparent what AI is mostly used for within the program: making more graphic elements to slap onto your page, and more ready-made templates you can still go in and alter everything in at-will. And honestly, I’m fine with that.
If they are a registered non profit they shouldn’t have to pay for premium, and be eligible for a free subscription
We/they are. So maybe we don’t pay then. I’ve never asked. We just have the premium package, so I assumed we paid.
So when will the ads start to pop up?
It’s already functionally an ad for Canva’s premium services.
The “ad” is a single button that you can turn off. For now it’s fine.
Enshitification is inevitable. Ugh.
At least give us a Linux version.
Top ten answers on the board; we asked 100 users “How will Canva cover the costs of the software development if Affinity is free?”
It has Ai features by subscription to Canva Premium.
don’t believe companies when they tell you they don’t want all the money on the planet by any means possible
So this is basically v3, and they’re trying to gain critical mass adoption vs Adobe.
I’m happy with my v2 for now, but I have a hunch if I migrate to “3” I’ll be modifying my hosts file in the future.
This frustrates me so much.
I paid for v1 and v2 of the suite precisely because I’m willing to pay for a tool that works for me, predictably and reliably and with no compromise in goals. Now I’ll have to switch platforms yet again, because they’re going to monetize somehow, and if it’s not by taking my money, it’ll be by taking something else.
Is Inkscape a reasonable replacement for Illustrator yet? Is there an equivalent for InDesign?
I don’t want to get stuck in a Canvas walled garden, and I’m not going to pay rent to use software.
I hear you. I’m not as doom and gloom as everybody else, but its definitely a shift away from their model. I mean, technically they are keeping their word by keeping Affinity separate and not subscription based like Canva. But I still don’t like it nonetheless.
The problem though is that there isn’t an alternative. Affinity was the alternative. Inkscape and Gimp have their place, but they are not the same level of software. I guess I’m just going to run my v2 into the ground waiting for other software to step up.
At least V2 still works and won’t just disappear. You can still use those apps you bought.
But it’s just sad to see this new path. I used to buy all the apps just because I liked the business model. I don’t really ever use Publisher, but I bought it anyway.
Now…there’s nothing that’ll get me to use this “free” shit.
V2 files can be opened in Canva version but they are not backwards compatible.
