“Sometimes there’s a man… I won’t say a “hero,” because what’s a hero? But sometimes there’s a man who… well, he’s the man for his time and place!” – Sam Elliot (the Stranger) from the glorious The Big Lebowski

You know that classic quote about standing on the shoulders of giants (and pioneers)? Honestly, in so many ways, that’s how I truly feel about the good ol’ Fediverse.

So, to sum up-- who are YOUR heroes here, and what does keep you hanging on here, baby…?


EDIT: For people wondering about what kinds of ‘bumps & difficulties’ I’ve personally experienced, here’s a tiny sampler:

https://piefed.social/post/1431056#comment_8685458

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    I don’t find that commercial social services are free of bumps and difficulties; they’re just different bumps and difficulties. They variously want me to:

    • Log in to view this content
    • Complete a captcha to view this content
    • LOOK AT THIS AD
    • Look at this other thing instead of reading through the rest of the comments on the post I opened
    • Look at this other content instead of the people I chose to follow
    • Consent to 237 different forms of tracking
    • Pay for a premium account
    • Don’t post anything too spicy for the advertisers
    • Install an app

    And people think picking a server to sign up or using an unpolished UI is a hassle? It’s a small price to pay to avoid that load of crap.

    I use Lemmy and Mastodon because independent services that interoperate are how I want the internet to work. I still use some of the big commercial services because people or communities I value are there. It’s not all-or-nothing.

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      And people think picking a server to sign up or using an unpolished UI is a hassle? It’s a small price to pay to avoid that load of crap.

      Strong disagree. I find that the learning curve is far bigger, more complex, yet also more subtle getting the ‘full FV experience’ than on Reddit. And I know a little something about that, having used my ~10yr experience there to create this WIP guide. Because most features or tips there are either still not available on the FV, or usually more complicated here.

      Also, I’ve had a litany of issues using the FV, very briefly alluded to here:
      https://piefed.social/post/1431056#comment_8685458

      But the FV is the real future IMO, so I keep on keeping on, as well as keep generating 95% of the content for my community here.

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        The comment you linked to says

        For example, last time I checked, the top four FV software bases still don’t connect to the Lemmy / PieFed / etc side of things. Mastodon is just beginning to rudimentarily connect to PF, but IIRC Lemmy still doesn’t.

        and I’m not sure what you’re talking about. Lemmy and Piefed obviously interoperate; you’re posting to !asklemmy@lemmy.world from a Piefed account right now. It’s a rougher experience trying to interact with forum-like software using blog-like software, but someone wanting that should probably just use two accounts.

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          “Not sure what I’m talking about?” Really?

          So, according to the “Fediverse-Observer” (and similar services AFAIK), in terms of software, sorting by user-count, it seems the top four user-bases are:

          • Mastodon: 9.4mil
          • MissKey: 3.2mil
          • nodeBB: 2.5mil
          • Lemmy: 1.2mil

          https://fediverse.observer/stats

          Now ask yourself how many of those (plus others) are STILL largely unconnected in terms of the FV. See my point now…?

          Nevermind. But, dude-- just because I started this thread up and made some vanilla, non-controversial statements, with no intention of specifically putting anyone down here, does not mean that I have any automagic responsibility to do others’ homework for them, as in your case, evidently.

          And, dude-- I’ve already offered something like 2doz personal replies here to the many, many comments and queries, upon this thread. Still, if you like, I suppose I could create a sort of an ‘extra-guide adjunct’ for people who clearly slacked on their homework, and for some reason want ME to make up for that.

          Cool…?

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            So, according to the “Fediverse-Observer” (and similar services AFAIK), in terms of software, sorting by user-count, it seems the top four user-bases are

            Not relevant to the comment where you posted the following to a Lemmy community from Piefed:

            Mastodon is just beginning to rudimentarily connect to PF, but IIRC Lemmy still doesn’t.

            Which looks to me like you’re saying “Lemmy still doesn’t connect to Piefed”, but reading it three more times I guess it’s possible you meant “Lemmy still doesn’t connect to Mastodon”.

            If you meant the latter, then I do have some idea what you’re talking about. It actually is possible to interact with one from the other with the constraint that Lemmy can only see Mastodon posts that tag communities. It’s not a smooth experience at all to try to consume community-based content from Mastodon.

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              Wow… congratulations on representing EXACTLY the kind of weirdness and negativity I was alluding to, above. So have fun with that, mate! And I do hope others come to appreciate your particular sense of ‘you-ness.’

              Good bye.