LOL… not even “third world” countries do this.
If the shutdown continues into the days around Thanksgiving (specifically Wed/Sun when things are really busy), things will get really interesting.
If by interesting, you mean midair collisions.
i find aircraft accidents and incidents very interesting.
“You will see mass flight delays. You’ll see mass cancelations, and you may see us close certain parts of the airspace, because we just cannot manage it because we don’t have the air traffic controllers.”
Maybe y’all shouldn’t have let DOGE chainsaw the FAA, then.
Not to take any rightful criticism off of DOGE, but ATCs just have never properly recovered from Reagan getting pissy, and are still just not properly equipped.
It turns out that it takes more than 3 decades to recover from a radical right presidential administration.
It sucks that we’re gonna have to do it again now
The answer is obviously force them to work without pay or face jail, right?
What does this even mean? How do you “close certain parts of the airspace”?
Do you invoke NORAD to prevent airplanes from flying into certain portions of US air space? Do you NOTAM certain airspace as class G? Do you maintain the class so VFR can’t fly through and have IFR avoid it? Do you put a TFR across the airspace?
Come on, dude. Be specific. FAA is DOT. You have the means to find someone who knows the correct words.
Because it’s a threat, not a safety measure
This is yet another loud chest beating to signal Republican incompetence
Doesn’t feel like a threat. Feels like a scare tactic to people who don’t know enough about how flying works.
There is no way in hell he gets away with physically shutting out other planes. NORAD is US + Canada. Canada is extremely unlikely to acquiesce, so he’ll have to use unpaid American military. Because ICE is not building fast enough (ICE is his excuse to say, “see? I’m not using military on civilians!”), he relies on the military to keep a hold on the populace. If they become too disgruntled, he loses or at least greatly impedes his progress towards his desired control of the entire US government.
If he declares that towered airports are now class G, then airplanes are still able to land but at a greatly reduced rate
If he makes them into TFR’s, then he’ll add time for planes to go around them.
His “threat” feels completely toothless.
Just keep reminding anybody that blames the Democrats that it’s the Republicans who are in charge right now. No need to argue or go down any rabbit holes with them; just a gentle friendly reminder and move on.
This might actually affect some republican politicians. They must REALLY want health insurance premiums to go up.
Trump wants to remove medical debt exclusions from credit reports: https://apnews.com/article/medical-debt-cfpb-fcra-equifax-experian-trans-union-fdb5ad61e4ca0f18943045d314dd7b3b
Trump wants to open forced labor internment camps for the unhoused: https://www.rawstory.com/trump-homeless/
It sucks for all the normal folks impacted by this, but being unable to travel for Thanksgiving might actually wake up enough people to the plight they voted for.
You know that all republicans (including redneck in trailer parks) are watching faux news 24h/24 where they talk about the horrible democrat shutdown, so they will remember to vote republican again.
There’s always a few that aren’t, people who can be pried off of the leftward flank.
If you think there aren’t then you might as well start advocating for the dissolution of the United States, because the experiment is over and it’s a failure.
Yep. They are getting their news from the “news” networks that cannot even get the fucking name of the DEMOCRATIC PARTY right.
I don’t hold out much hope for them to wake up, since these are also the people that are terrified of all things “woke”.
This might be a stupid question but I’m not from the US so bear with me.
If your “government” keeps not doing its job due to choosing to shutdown, how long until you decide this government isn’t doing its sole task of governing and get rid of it and form another?
In Canada if a budget vote fails, we call an election.
We elect our politicians on a set schedule, and keep our Executive and Legislative branches separate. So, the next opportunity to “form a new government” is next November, when we re-elect the entire House and 1/3 of the Senate.
And keep in mind what this shutdown actually is. It is a failure to pass a law that appropriates money to government agencies. Not all government spending is subject to appropriations – in particular, Congress is still getting paid, because their salaries are not subject to yearly government appropriations.
Why can’t these agencies just continue to spend money? Because Congress made it illegal to exceed appropriations. This shutdown is not a bug, it’s how our politicians have set things up, on purpose.
It is a failure to pass a law that appropriates money to government agencies. Not all government spending is subject to appropriations – in particular, Congress is still getting paid, because their salaries are not subject to yearly government appropriations.
Yeah, it’s worth noting that the government shutdown is not budget related. The budget has already been passed. We know how much is going to be spent, and how it will be spent… This shutdown is because the appropriation was run separately, meaning the budget has passed but the various accounts for the budget have no money in them yet. The money already exists. It could be spent. But it’s not in the correct accounts, so the various agencies can’t access it. Thus, those agencies are shut down.
Good explanation, thank you. Not at all what I expected.
Third world country.
Even third world countries keep their airports operating. Failed state is probably better descriptor.
Map of affected areas:
(Good airspace is Red, bad airspace is Blue)
Don’t you guys have
phonesprivate jets?These assholes keep trying to blame this on Democrats. I see Mikey Johnson standing there and brazenly lying about SNAP and healthcare, FFS.
Is anyone else sick to death of clickbait headlines?
Yes, me
However, this isn’t really a clickbait title of hou ask me. From reading the article, this IS what the guy said, so this is fairly on point
I don’t see 'slammed", or “destroyed” or shit like that
It’s click bait. Headlines used to feature the most important elements first.
Appropriate headline:
Government Shutdowns Threatens to…
Yes, but how is this clickbait?
Not click bait:
Government Shutdown Threatens to limit navigable airspace.
The only point of the headline is to get you to click. News organizations exist to sell ads. They can’t sell ads on an article you don’t click on. Every headline is literally clickbait if you want to be pedantic about it.
That said, THIS headline is not what anyone would typically call clickbait. It’s not asking a baiting question, burying a lede, or saying something that’s arguably untrue just to get you in to the article. “A person of particular interest to X industry says thing that he believes to be true about said industry.” The headline assumes you know a few things, sure. But it’s not a scholarly article, it’s allowed to assume you know things.
Anyway… my solution is the better headline.
It’s clearer.
And had the headline been mine, I wouldn’t have clicked. And that’s the point of headlines.
My job isn’t to click when your job is to inform.
And yes — the other version buries the lead.
Please forgive that I started this. It’s a demoralizing conversation.
Winning!
