• deranger@sh.itjust.works
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    can we just please get some normal, boring, safe, efficient trains that actually function instead of this gizmo bullshit?

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    I’ll never understand the eternal hype around “flying cars”. Fuckers out here can hardly drive on a 2d road. Now you want to introduce a third axis on them?

    I guarantee that if the general public gets their hands on a real “flying car”, it’ll take about 2 weeks before some drunk idiot commits a mini 9/11.

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      The only way flying cars should ever get implemented is if they are 100% automatic.

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        1 year ago
        • Create automatic taxi (impossible)

        • Create flying taxi (impossible)

        Okay, new plan!

        • Create automatic flying taxi (should be possible in the next 5-15 years)
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      Drink idiots hit things in cars all the time.

      Make the test to acquire your license actually difficult to the skill level required instead of the “you can take two left turns and park shitty, here’s your license” level of difficulty that most states use for road vehicles.

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        Dog if you make one mistake you can kill so many more people than in a crash. This is a horrible idea.

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          So require more training and certification for use?

          Are you guys all seriously hung up on the word “car” here and trying to imply that eVTOLs can’t just come with its own infrastructure and pilot requirements independent of what we currently have?

          It doesn’t have to be like cars, where the skill level of the driver can be non existent and still pass licensing.

          I just can’t believe I’m in the tech community of a supposedly leftist website having to argue for a technology that beyond small local airstrips (literally a grass field with charging stations and basic rest stop equipment) needs no additional ground infrastructure.

          The opposition? Begin large scale rail projects that will require we carve through a lot of natural resources as well as acquire the resources to build it with.

          I just have to double check to make sure I didn’t fall into the wrong internet rabbit hole.

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            Im saying that it doesnt matter if the requirements are super high, it’s still dangerous and I don’t really see how the use cases are justifiable. It also doesn’t scale well with a lot of people. You could easily just build rail or use a bus and make a bus lane.

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            I just can’t believe I’m in the tech community of a supposedly leftist website having to argue for a technology that beyond small local airstrips (literally a grass field with charging stations and basic rest stop equipment) needs no additional ground infrastructure.

            The opposition? Begin large scale rail projects that will require we carve through a lot of natural resources as well as acquire the resources to build it with.

            🤣

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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        I got my driver’s license when I was 18, after studying for the test and practicing for several months on a learner’s permit.

        Now I’m 40. I’ve never been retested. I have completely forgotten what’s on the exam. I’ve developed a whole bunch of bad driving habits, particularly with the advent of smart phones. And nobody is going to challenge my license renewal so long as I can pass an eye exam every 10 years.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      No. Only the promise of a single-person direct-to-destination fee-for-service that ends up being a giant scam.

      We will never build mass transit in this country. You can’t make us.

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        Where America is going to come unstuck is with the electric car.

        Either you guys are going to have to build up more electrical infrastructure which you don’t want to do, or you’re going to have to develop public transit options, would you also don’t seem to want to do.

        Then the GOP will somehow try and turn it into a political issue (because they are lunatics) and nothing will get done, and then no one will be able to go anywhere because they will be stuck living in a country that is designed for a mode of transit that no longer exists, and no one has bothered to update it in any way. And then your kids are going to overthrow the government because they won’t be able to understand why everyone in Europe can go wherever they want.

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          A few major metro areas with big finance and tech sectors will get a bunch of pilot programs that cost way too much and never get fully implemented.

          Then we’ll get told that the tech is too expensive and we can’t do it.

          Meanwhile, China will be building a BRI that moves people at 600 mph from Beijing to Rabat.

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      Do you have any idea how much time and resources it would take to construct high speed rail across the US compared to small local airstrips for VTOLs?

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        Do you know how much more utility and efficiency actual public transport has?

        Flying is a horrible option for short range public transport.

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          Jesus Christ I don’t even know why I bother arguing with people who will constantly move the goal posts. We aren’t talking about cargo, we are talking about transporting people, fucks sake.

          This place really did take the dumbest of reddit.

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    Jesus fuck. It’s just like some auto execs to pull shit like this. Completely fuck up transportation infrastructure on the ground to your own benefit and everyone else’s detriment, then use your winnings to build taxis that can fly over the carnage you’ve wrought. We are living the Cyberpunk future.

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    We already have “flying cars”. They’re called helicopters, and you need training and a license to fly them. Just like you’ll need for this thing and just like you need for a normal road-going car.

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    So, we’re just gonna burn more fuel. Wtf. We need legislative change to prevent shit like this.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Around the world, electric vertical takeoff and landing, or eVTOL aircraft are entering the mainstream, though questions remain about noise levels and charging demands.

    Still, developers say the planes are nearing the day when they will provide a wide-scale alternative to shuttle individual people or small groups from rooftops and parking garages to their destinations, while avoiding the congested thoroughfares below.

    Joby’s decision to locate its first scaled manufacturing facility at a 140-acre (57-hectar) site at Dayton International Airport delivers on two decades of groundwork laid by the state’s leaders, Republican Lt. Gov.

    Its financial package wasn’t the largest, but the chance to bring the operation to the birthplace of aviation — with a workforce experienced in the field — sealed the deal, he said.

    Bevirt said operations and hiring will begin immediately from existing buildings near the development site, contingent upon clearing the standard legal and regulatory hurdles.

    Toyota, a long-term investor, worked with Joby in 2019 to design and to successfully launch its pilot production line in Marina, California.


    The original article contains 862 words, the summary contains 171 words. Saved 80%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

  • rekabis@lemmy.ca
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    Ohio is also the state which has the highest per-capita production of astronauts, with only New York and California producing more in terms of raw numbers.

    I wonder, what is it about Ohio that encourages people to flee the planet with such zeal?

  • Who knew?@sh.itjust.works
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    I’m hoping regulations get in the way of this. The FAA is barely comfy letting people fly a drone beyond line of sight with a waiver, fully automated flight for untrained passengers is going to take some doing.

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      I’m making this claim based on the Wright Bros exhibit at the Smithsonian Air and space museum…

      One of the genius things that they did was invent scaled testing (I’m not 100% sure I can make this claim, but I’d be happy to learn it I was wrong). Rather than building the device and testing it, which killed a lot of people through history, they built miniature components and tested them individually to prove concepts, and THEN built their production version in iterations.

      Like, to test airfoil designs, they built a table top sized wind tunnel, put a miniature airfoil in, and evaluated its performance, and made determinations for the final product. This SIGNIFICANTLY lowered design costs and prototyping at the time.

      This also happened to result in an airplane.