YouTube suspends Russell Brand from making money off his channel — The suspension comes following the publication of rape and sexual assault allegations against the British star::YouTube has blocked Russell Brand from making money off its platform and the BBC pulled some of his shows from its online streaming service in the wake of rape and sexual assault allegations against the comedian-turned-influencer.
I have no reason to doubt the allegations. But allegations shouldn’t be enough for somebody to lose their livelihood.
Well I’m sure Google will be donating the money to sexual assault non profits rather than pocketing the profits right?
Right?
Do you know any corporation that would?
Most corporations would suspend his account completely for damage control.
They’re suspending his income. That’s theft.
I made a joke comment, well since they’re taking his money, I’m sure it’s going to victims. Right?
And you come along and point out that, in your belief, all corporations steal revenue from their content providers when they get accused of a crime. Show me one other platform that’s done this. Suspended revenue (i.e. stealing revenue) prior to conviction rather than canceling content.
Note the BBC cancelled him. Google is still making money off an accused rapist. In fact, more. Because said rapist isn’t getting a cut.
No, they aren’t. His videos aren’t being promoted or monotonized. Search and find some. Since they will not be getting promoted to you. You will see no advertisements directly before or during. Because they aren’t.
Thanks for the correction.
Has he been banned from using the Internet? No? Then you’re spewing bullshit. YouTube doesn’t have to host his content and advertisers don’t need to pay him for it. He isn’t entitled to shit. He can fuck off to some right-wing hellscape of a site that will platform him. That’s capitalism baby!
Get out of here with your critical thinking!!!
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Again. Not a rapist until proven so in a court. And yes, I understand the difficulty in proving it and I believe him to be guilty, but not a rapist until proven so.
I know there is a huge failing by the courts with these types of cases but we must avoid trial by media at all costs.
For 700 years one of the central principles of British law has been that someone shouldn’t be punished without being brought in Answer by due Process of the Law.
It’s scary how many people are willing to throw that out the window and behave like medieval peasants lynching witches.
Yep. I understand that it’s hard to prosecute rape, but without rule of law we’re fucked.
This principle exists to shield the people from their government. It is not intended to be (and has never been) a protection for someone’s social status or reputation.
Who’s throwing him in prison? He’s isn’t facing any legal consequences as a result of this news. He’s facing social consequences from organisations that no longer want to be associated with him. He’s free to being a libel case in the UK if he wants to clear his name, but instead he put up a video claiming “they’re” out to get him.
I don’t think it’s that simple. Heinous allegations can make that business relationship untenable. YouTube has an image to protect as well as other partnerships to maintain. There are people (not just wealthy executives) whose livelihood relies on those things,.
If a person’s reputation, fair or not, creates a risk to those things, why should YouTube be forced to assume that risk on their behalf?
Bullshit. If they wanted to cut ties and protect their image, they could block the channel and wash their hands.
This here is pure profiteering.
Profiteering by a mega corporation, say it ain’t so!!
No one should see YT as a “livelyhood” as no one has a contract with them guaranteing income.
YouTube is big business. Of course content makers should be able to rely on it for livelihood.
I agree to an extent, however the reason behind Google cancelling his ads is almost certainly not because Google doesn’t want to monetize as much content as humanly possible, but because they expect or know that their advertisers don’t want their ads next to an alleged (and possibly convicted in the future) rapist / sexual predator.
Google used to be incredibly hands-off about these things, only terminating someone if they were actually convicted in a court of law.
Compare the cases of Austin Jones (who didn’t have his YouTube channel terminated until he was actually convicted of distributing child porn and sentenced to ten years in prison) and EDP445 (who was caught in a pedophile hunter sting operation and was immediately terminated from all social media.)
Just a reminder that there are a far more allegations against Trump, and Trump has been found liable for rape, and yet Trump is the frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination.
Even if I find this appealing, I wonder why you need to do this whataboutism.
I think it’s important to point it out. The other rapist is exalted when he should be getting shut down too.
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Just trying to resolve some cognitive dissonance for Trump supporters who maybe haven’t thought about it in these terms.
Trump supporters are more dangerous.
Does he have a monetized YouTube channel?
Google again pretending to be the moral police. Based on accusations of something that might or might not have happened 20 years ago. Apparently they don’t have a problem with him being on their platform or showing ads on his videos though, they just want to save some money and look like they’re doing the right thing (they are not).
Can’t wait for a future where multibillion dollar corporations decide what’s right and wrong and also who is and isn’t guilty.
That future is now…
The year is 2023
I think we’re there. The future is today.
Can you show me such an instance?
Because demonetising videos on their own platform is not the same as jailing someone.
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Google is still the authority of Youtube, and can decide any number of dumb policies they so desire.
Their platform their rules, they did not overstate their authority.
They aren’t showing ads on his videos.
Great, now demonitize the catholic church while you’re at it.
And pragerU
Is it against YT TOS or did they take the liberty with this decision
Second, as much as I have always found him sketchy and a very irritating person, I am very alarmed by the erosion of people’s right to be presumed innocent until found guilty. even when I know that he is quite capable of the committing those allegation
A platform can choose themselves who they extend the platform to.
It may not be justice, but if Youtube decides to demonetise every video featuring red sweaters, then they have the liberty to do so.
That’s too much power for a monopoly to have. And YouTube is quite close to a monopoly.
Maybe “more fool you” but entire livelihoods and businesses rely on YouTube not cutting them off at any random moment with no notice or warning.
That’s why it’s so important to just build your own website and to stop being dependent on other people for anything you have.
Right. “just build your own YouTube” is the solution. 👍
PeerTube exists yet you still whine.
YouTube sucks, but it’s not a monopoly. It’s nowhere close to one. Monopolies are not “there’s only one product.” People love spouting monopoly to every mainstream product like iPhone and Windows.
YouTube has plenty of competition in video hosting. There’s more professional high cost ones like Netflix. Less giving but just as easily accessible is TikTok. Hell there’s even PornHub.
Just because YouTube has a unique combination of services that has allowed self employment for many people that can’t get it easily on existing sites does not mean that competition does not exist. Many content creators on YouTube actually advertise a competing site on YouTube.
Before we can start offering solutions we need to have a good understanding on what the problem is and what it isn’t.
Don’t want the risk of culpability ? Don’t want to consider others? Feel entitled? Then go Create your own distribution.
But YouTube doesn’t have a monopoly, you’re more than welcome to start up a competing video hosting site and steal their customers. YouTube is providing a platform, for people to upload and store their videos for free – they have every right to decide who they do and don’t want on their platform.
It’s simple, just don’t do something that will get you banned fifteen years later when the winds change direction. Sure, red sweaters were cool back then, but now they mean something wildly different. We’ll give you three strikes for three videos with one second of a red sweater. And you’re deleted for so many strikes. Thanks, bu-bye.
YT is a private company supplying a server. They can set their own policy (TOS which is neither enforceable by law for either side) and they don’t actually owe anyone their livelihood. It’s like getting kicked off of any platform,even Etsy. Etsy doesn’t then owe you money that you could have made. You don’t own potential money. It’s not promised to you. They are a platform. Not your distributor. And even at that you can be kicked from a distributor anytime as they can also have policies on content they will associate with. If they decide it’s disagreeable, that in itself is a breach of contract.
I don’t think the debate is whether YouTube is allowed to choose who is or isn’t on their site, but whether it is OK to subject someone to the result of a trial by social media.
If someone made an accusation against you, would you think it’d be right of your employer to sack you, or would you like the chance to defend yourself legally first?
he’s not EMPLOYED by YouTube. That is not what this is.
YouTube doesn’t need to presume shit. You’re confusing YouTube with the US government.
Yeah, I don’t know anything about this guy but this is an alarming decision if the headline is accurate.
It’s more alarming if he is innocent
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I really hope no one falsely accuses you of a sex crime, because you’ve just made your bed.
if it were Keanu Reeves, He would get the Pretty privilege
My god… some of the commenters would make you think he was being sent to the lethal injection chamber.
The guy had his account demonetized. He’s not even banned from YouTube. He can post as many videos as he wants. He just doesn’t get paid for them. Which makes him… like most of us who post YouTube videos. The horror!
It’s scary seeing how many people also don’t understand that these laws protect you from government entities.
IYoutube is considered a private company, as it isn’t run by the government. So, protective laws against government rules don’t really apply. Proper court proceeding would be good, yes, but youtube is not the Court. Youtube can and does control what is on their platform. They are contract bound to advertiser interests, and their advertisers don’t want to risk encouraging him if he is guilty. That is also their right, as they are also private entities. There is nothing that obligates them to continue funding someone. They could also decide to stop funding because the guy like bagels.
As a private entity, google could theoretically stop every single youtube channel today, if they chose to do so. They can decide to not host your content just because you like potatoes over radishes. It’s their private platform.
I don’t get why that’s complex. Private vs public.
Agreed, but what’s really grinding my gears here is he hasn’t been banned from YouTube. He just won’t make money from his videos. People are complaining because a multimillionaire isn’t getting paid by Google. Baffling.
Maybe because in principle someone had lost their income due to unproven allegations. Who they are our the financial status is irrelevant.
What’s relevant is that Google has no obligation to pay anyone but their employees.
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He already puts his videos on the dodgy other video sites for wronguns like Rumble doesn’t he?
It’s not the fucking job of YouTube to judge and punish. We have judges and the Criminal Code for that. We should not let us ruled by corporations!
I’m guessing the challenge is advertisers. Advertisers buy ad space next to or in video content. No advertiser wants to buy ad space that is adjacent to or makes it look like they are supporting someone under public scrutiny for sexual assault allegations. So as Google, where you need to sell good ad space to paying advertisers, bother with running ads next to Russel Brand or just say no and make that clear to advertisers to build confidence?
It is their job to make profits. Literally. Google is legally bound by stake holder agreement to maximise profits, absolutely nothing to do with the justice system or any sort of ethical code.
Yeah but they clearly feel there is enough smoke to be worried about a fire and are entitled to cut ties. It may be the case if they don’t that people take their impartial inaction to be supporting him. They have ethics and morality clauses in their TOS.
It’s one thing if they actually stop running ads on his videos. I bet they crank more ads on them instead.
No, but as a private firm it is there decision what they host, promote and show adverts against. He has no contract with YT guaranteeing an income, thats not how it works. If he wants a guaranteed income he should get back on TV with a contact, but he Burt those bridges when he become a conspiracy grifter.
Yea I understand that, but so many content creators get thrown under the bus by YouTube, twitch, etc. that I think there should be a law protecting individuals from big cooperations that they are dependent on. I know, it’s different in America compared to where I live, here, if you have someone Working for you and you fire that person, depending how long this person works for you already, you have to pay salary for up to 3 months. (There are few reasons that allow cancellation of contract immediately) After you got fired, you can go to a place called “Arbeitslosenkasse” where you get 80% of salary going forward as long as you try to get a new job.
So maybe thats why I find it odd when YouTube just flick a switch upon obligations…
Btw. I don’t know that guy the post is about and highly doubt that he is innocent given the infos I have seen yet.
We have the same laws in the UK, but he’s self-employed. Can you not be self-employed where you live?
I mean its the same in the UK with employment protections, but YouTubers wouldn’t be covered by that as they’re not employees and don’t have contracts. Google don’t really have to share any revenue with uploaders as they’re already providing the infrastructure and storage for free.
No one should rely on that as income and just see it as a bonus, to other income streams.
Advertisers won’t want to be shown on his videos while this is ongoing.
Keeping them happy is in fact literally their job.
Didn’t know Google was the one that sentenced him to jail.
Not giving money is punishment
No, it is a consequence of having bad publicity.
Agree, there’s actual rapists and incels on YouTube that need banning before an alleged rapist or SA.
and they might have tainted any jurors ifa case did come about.
He isn’t banned though.
I have no idea if he did or didn’t any of the alleged. But what happened to innocent u til proven guilty? Anyone accused of anything these days gets cancelled.
I mean there are definately people who havent been canceled. Reminder that Chris Brown is probably bigger than he once was and everyone knows hes actually beaten up people
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Worst case scenario Ben Shepiro offers them a spot on the Daily Wire.
I would say that ACTUALLY being “cancelled” is the exception.
I’d argue it’s the opposite.
Most working class people can suffer real consequences as a result of it. Those who are rich, famous, and/or influential can afford to just pivot.
Google is not the law, and they can do whatever they want with their company.
They don’t have to continue to pay him if they don’t want to — innocent, guilty, whichever. Just like they don’t have to continue to host nazi garbage or MAGA garbage if they don’t want to.
This puts Russel Brand in a position to sue for libel and slander as the court of public opinion has already declared him guilty. What happens if he is found innocent at his court case. What if they did this to Johnny Depp?
“Not guilty” is distinct from “innocent”, and such a verdict, if a trial ever comes of this, would not impact libel or slander. Being unable to prove your accusations in court to the standard required is not a determination that the accusations were false, only that doubt remained.
Nothing. These people aren’t entitled to companies wanting to work with them. This isn’t the same thing as being a W-2 worker somewhere.
Not sure why you’re being downvoted, nobody here knows if he did it or not.
Unfortunately, that’s pretty much a wrap for him. Nobody has come back from rape allegations, even if they win in court.
I don’t even like the guy, but I really dislike how we’ve regressed to the point where feelings are more important than facts.
Cancelled people don’t come back!? What fucking planet are you living on?
Bret The Rapist Kavanaugh got everything he wanted after getting cancelled.
Floyd Wife Beater Mayweather will still be remembered for his boxing career than the shit he should be remembered for.
Louie Indecent Exposure CK came back to the Comedy Scene years after getting cancelled only to make disingenuous jokes about his behavior.
These pieces of garbage should hang their heads in shame and suffer social ostracism until all their victims vocally and emphatically forgive them publicly.
The fact we make excuses for and defend these “people” because of their social status and a myriad of legal loopholes that allow for them to walk free with their heads held high while their victims are questioned and vilified is fucking pathetic.
Trump lost in civil court for what the judge called rape, and still has a rabid fan base.
Why’d they try rape in civil court? Rape is a crime.
It was a defamation case in which the courts determined that Trump made false statements by denying the allegations because he most likely did sexually assault E. Jean Carroll.
No criminal case was brought because it’s beyond the statute of limitations, and since the legal bar in a criminal case is higher I don’t think any prosecutor would bring those charges even if statute of limitations wasn’t an issue.
At the time when Carroll alleges Trump raped her, the statute of limitations for rape in the state of New York was five years.
There was no real evidence though. Just he said she said. Let’s not pretend like there aren’t huge incentives to make false allegations and that there are entities out there capable executing on that plan. I say this as someone who is not a fan of Trump.
I mean Deshaun Watson came back with 230 million dollars guaranteed after several sexual harrasment allegations. Public image wise hes gone, but that doesnt mean he still doesnt make a shit ton of money (and all of it guaranteed)
Several? Man was at 26 allegations and he is still currently being sued. The Browns were stupid enough to pay him thinking he was going to save them and to a vast majority of football fans joy he isn’t playing well. I wouldn’t be shocked if he goes broke.
What about Johnny Depp? Don’t forget Al Franken too.
Presumption of innocence is in law. IANAL.
He isn’t jailed is he?
And not even cancelled either. He is still even allowed to post content to Youtube.
Anyone who can still say they are cancelled aren’t actually cancelled.
Guilty until proven Innocent, and even then still kinda guilty.
That’s just how people operate today, and it’s disgusting
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He hasn’t been thrown in jail without trial.
This is a private company protecting itself.
You can just send me all your money. It’s not like you need income to get food and shelter, or anything like that.
Yeah they’ve taken all his money.
Hahaha get the fuck out of here, stupid shit like this isn’t even worth responding to. You’re an idiot.
Am I misreading your comment or are you supporting the idea of guilty until proven innocent?
I think you might be misreading.
Definitely misreading it
Innocent until proven guilty is part of the legal system. Not part of an advertisers choice to place ads.
He has not been found guilty of a crime without evidence. He’s lost ad revenue from a private platform.
Damm guys 15 dislikes? I get that I misunderstood but i didn’t expect to be ratio’d.
It’s a bit hard to accurately gauge these sorts of things when there is such a large incentive to lie about this stuff to get someone out of the political arena. This is inclusive of all sides. I don’t know how we should properly go about these things but the truth is that there are entities with LOTS of money and connections who can ruin anyones life without any hard evidence in an instant. None of us know what happened, it’s up to the court of law to properly determine things. But you’d be ignorant to think that the powers that be wouldn’t throw rape accusations at anyone who is inconvenient to those in power.
If you watched the piece, there is video evidence of him being a disgusting piece of shit regardless. There was footage of him forcefully kissing a presenter and undoing her bra. The police failed to investigate. These women were failed by lazy, misogynistic police, just like they always are.
To top it off, slander laws in the UK are very strict, no one is going to post accusations like this without serious evidence to back themselves up.
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When the evidence presents itself I will make my judgement.
no one is going to post accusations like this without serious evidence to back themselves up.
This is quite the statement to make. I argue that accusations like this get posted all the time without serious evidence to back it up. I will wait for the evidence to come out of him raping someone before I make a judgement in either direction.
So you’re saying channel 4 makes allegations of rape against celebrities all the time?
Where did I say that?
This is a two day old account with many hot takes that are stone cold.
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There have been documented cases of rich people being informed they will have accusations thrown at them in the public eye if they do not pay out. Every time a public figure criticizes a politician to the point of possibly swaying some public opinion, I promise you that their team is working overtime to find any dirt possible to shut that person up. There’s a whole industry around it where firms are paid big money to dig up (and less scrupulously, fabricate) shit on people who go against their interests. It’s not that far fetched.
Christ you have a conspiracy for everything don’t you? Lemmy’s a small place. But this is very informative about your other comments.
He’s the fakest piece of shit around. Not surprising at all.
I’ve always hated his fake cockney bullshit. You can hear when his accent slips and then suddenly he’s all “Knees up muvva brown!” for the next 30 seconds.
Fucking piece of shit is from Essex, the most trash place in the entire UK.
He is a working class person from Essex. He’s not pretending to be anything he isn’t, except arguably an intellectual. No need to be so vitriolic.
Being a drug addict does not make you working class.
He glamourises drugs and other grubby behaviour and makes a living out of being obnoxious, until people call him out on it, at which point he turns on the waterworks and does the “oh poor little street kid me” act.
He left his single parent home at 16 before turning to drugs. How was he not working class. He’s an ex-drug addict and doesn’t glamourise them at all. I don’t even like him, but the facts are out there.
What do you think “working class” means?
You obviously haven’t seen any of his material. He’s built his whole career on drugs. Find a clip where he’s not talking about them.
You want me to find a clip of Russell Brand not talking about drugs? Wow… impossible.
Working class is anyone from the social group of unskilled or manual/industrial work. The people who work these jobs and their families/children. Like Russell Brand. He’s not working class anymore, but he just factually was as a child. Weird hill to die on.
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…which proves my point.
You don’t seem to understand what the argument is about.
There isn’t an argument, you called him the fakest piece of shit around and then suggested he was some kind of privileged upper class toff pretending to be an Essex urchin. But the obvious reality is he presents himself as he is. You chose the dumbest attack you could have. Attack his politics or something.
My dad got sucked into the Russell Brand woo during the pandemic. Maybe he’ll finally come to his senses now this guy is an obvious fraud?
Block your dad’s router and blame the deep state
All of the top comments in this thread seem very astroturfed. All saying the same thing, all wrong about the doctrinal implications of legal presumptions.
These fucking red pilled incels. Yeah, they can overrun any comment section, but get them in the real world and they scurry back to the shadows roaches.
Judge, jury, and executioner.
HE WAS EXECUTED BY GOOGLE EMPLOYEES???!
This is the best summary I could come up with:
YouTube has blocked Russell Brand from making money off its platform and the BBC pulled some of his shows from its online streaming service in the wake of rape and sexual assault allegations against the comedian-turned-influencer.
Brand has developed a major following on his YouTube channel in recent years, amassing more than 6.6 million subscribers while cultivating a persona as a “wellness” and conspiracy influencer.
The BBC also reported it had removed “some programmes” featuring the former actor that were “deemed to ‘fall below public expectations’” from its streaming services, iPlayer and Sounds.
“There is limited content featuring Russell Brand on iPlayer and Sounds,” the BBC said in a statement published by the U.K. public broadcaster on Tuesday.
Other platforms hosting material from Brand, including Spotify and Luminary, did not immediately respond to requests for comment from NBC News.
The police department told NBC News it received a report of sexual assault against Brand on Sunday, a day after the publication of the investigation and the airing of a documentary on the subject on Saturday.
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