With the Linux Vendor Firmware Service serving more than 135 million downloads for Linux users updating their system and device firmware, LVFS has been working to get more hardware vendors to contribute either engineering resources or directly contributing annual dues as sponsors. Framework Computer is now the first one to have executed an agreement under these new sponsorship efforts.
Red Hat in employing lead developer Richard Hughes has contributed the most to LVFS/Fwupd’s success, the Linux Foundation has also hosted the project since it has shifted into their umbrella, AMD’s Mario Limonciello is among the significant contributors, and now Framework Computer is a new sponsor to the project.
I continue to contribute in the most minor way to both, and it’s very true that Hughes LARGELY runs this repo. This is becoming a problem, especially since the majority of companies do not contribute, though they use the upstream just like everyone else.
If Amazon, Google, Dell, Hetzner, Equinox, DR, DO…etc all paid their fair share, they’d be able to pay honest contributors just simply for making what is already available MORE readily available. That’s what this project is about.
On the hardware manufacturer side: AMD, Nvidia, Intel, Realtek…etc are also not chipping in.
This is a CRUCIAL project for larger adoption for home users. Yes, most enterprise-sized companies manage their own semver releases for firmware, but they still use these tools. They should contribute, not only because it’s the right thing to do, but a miniscule amount of money for them to do so to ensure the same people making this such a success can continue to do so.
That’s great to hear!
You nor this article say wtf is LVFS
A system to get firmware updates (BIOS, Touchpad and much more) like regular software updates on Linux.
I acquired a wds19 usb C dock for the mrs’ macbook. I was plugged into it yesterday and did an apt upgrade, and it offered to update the firmware of the dock and the wireless mouse and keyboard.
No 500mb spyware tray applets, no .bin file on a sd card, no dos 6.2 live boot shenanigans.
The dell office machines and Mac could never dream of such power!
That’s a Dell dock, isn’t it? Dell PCs use the same system.
Yes, but the business I acquired it from must scrub that from their os image
It’s the thing that goes fwup!
Cool, but I don’t care how big Framework makes their tent. They will not see a cent from me.
Purity testing everything you use means you have to get off Lemmy, if you look at the statements from some of the core devs. It is no way to live and is pretty much incompatible with being on the internet. Framework is clearly doing more good than harm, and while no company is perfect or immune from critique, feedback from customers does more than knee-jerk comments from people with no stakes.
No, I just don’t give them any money. If I were to procure a Framework Laptop by means of a genie wish, I would still use it. I am probably using a ton of open source software right now made by people I can’t stand. Also I can purity check and boycott whoever I like, whenever I like. I don’t have to live by your rules. You do you.
So you’d rather buy a laptop from a vendor that gives price breaks to ICE, such as Dell and HP, or one indirectly owned by the CCP such as Lenovo? That’s certainly a choice.
Or
… you could just buy from another company like framework but without the nazi shit.
Like: https://novacustom.com/
Configure what laptop you want and buy it.
If any random part breaks, you can buy a replacement and switch it out.
Never heard of these guys, thanks for posting that. Their prices are a bit rough, but so are Framework’s these days. Do they offer board schematics like Framework does?
Do you intend to purchase a new laptop from another vendor?
It’s not a purity test, it’s boycotting an admitted Nazi friendly organization. When Framework chose to embrace, financially support, and then when called out on it, specifically state that the Nazis are welcome in their big tent, that tent became a Nazi tent. That’s not a tent me or many others want to be in, because that makes the Nazis feel welcome and free to attack anyone else in the tent with no repercussions and with the full, spoken support of Framework.
Fuck that, and fuck you if you don’t like it.
Counterpoint. This line of thinking is what got me living under an ACTUAL fascist regime right now. People did purity testing with Harris on whatever issue, pick your poison (Gaza, police accountability, etc) and it moved the needle. How much will never be known, but a chunk of people spent so much time listening to talking heads and streamers that they decided to not vote for her. And now we have Trump, destabilizing the world, letting a guy with brain worms decide everyone’s health. Harris would have been the best option by far even if she was not perfect, but fixing good was always a better option than rejecting not-perfect. If framework goes away, good luck getting another right-to-repair first org to build hardware. There has never been a better time to make the point “stop purity testing things, acknowledge when things are the better option, and work to make them even better.” All this “us vs. them” and using language that paints anything as black or white moves the needle on people passively reading comments, and does actual harm. Living in a world without a grey area does actual harm.
This isn’t purity testing, this is not giving money to fascist fucks who actually want to see me and my family dead.
Your analogy is bogus because this is the Fediverse and we can defederate from tankies without giving them money. The entire topic revolves around how Framework spends money. Whataboutism in this context is a classic defense of fascism, for what it’s worth.
What why? What happened??
They openly support fashtech like Hyperland and the “distro” Omarchy. In response to the well-justified backlash against this, founder Nirav Patel tried to hand wave the issue away by talking about how they want “a big tent" for open source”, completely ignoring the nazi cunts behind the projects they support.
If you want to know more details here a two articles:
Why, did I miss something?
Just some fools on lemmy crying about the fact that they gave the creator of Hyprland a laptop and a couple grand, which is apparently enough to make Framework about as evil as US Border Patrol.
