I said it before and I’ll say it again, among all tech companies, Apple is the closest to the nazi mindset.
Google has decided you cannot turn off Gemini in their newer versions of Android. You cannot install other roms that do either, Google is killing those too. But yea, Apple is the bad guy. Ignore the Google rug pull.
Funnily enough, my new ulefone allowed me to at least completely disable that crap. First one where that is possible. Even the shitty swipe right and you get Google’s forced news app, which you could “disable” so that it would show a shitty screen with “please enable Google News!”, can be completely disabled. First time in like 10 years on a non custom ROM that I could do this.
Apple never even tried to allow it, so yeah, Apple IS the bad guy. Google is becomeing it, Apple is the mayor of bad guy town.
As much as I don’t disagree, I think the “Apple is closest to Nazism” comment touches on something different. Other massive American companies have awful practices but they don’t care particularly how their way of making money looks. Apple wields a specific aesthetic power that generally dictates a hegemonic uniformity, that strays the line of being to their detriment at times. I don’t think any other big tech company would care in the same way if not for their desire to copy Apple.
Bullshit. I have it turned off on my pixel 9pro and Samsung s24 plus
I’ve lost features that used to work without Gemini, but I believe it is disabled on both my Pixel 7 Pro and the Pixel 8 I have access to.
This is a completely different thought.
Doesn’t seem like anyone has ignored Google. They doing it is old news.
Like, maybe a manufacturer’s default ROM is worse than iPhone, but is it actually better than a GrapheneOS phone?
You already know the answer is no
AppleThe Official Phone Of Genocide
Lets face it, the more you know about ol’ tyranty boy StevieJobs the more it makes sense.
The Genius Bar are much more violent these days.
They don’t want people installing GrapheneOS on them.
But isn’t that stupid tho. Like they should want their military officers to be using the most secure OS.
But then again, its funny to see them make stupid decisions.
That’s only true if they trust them. If the goal is to ensure they can keep track of dissidents then no.
I wouldn’t assume any news about technology being used by IDF to be true in the first place. It could just as easily be misinformation.
says everything about iPhones ‘security’ & ‘privacy’
repeats it
This is it right here. I can’t believe the nonsense I’m reading in this thread. Just goes to show how absolutely uninformed most people are when it comes to security and privacy
FFS a government makes a policy on phone security which may or may not be a good decision. OK whatever, who cares?
Ah but that government is Israel. So now this is today’s reason for your daily Two Minutes Hate?
Get a grip people.
I’ve hated the Israeli Gov’t much longer than 2 minutes.
Fuck Israel, genocidal scum!
Do you salt the boot leather first or just a dash of A1 maybe?
Probably licks raw
The Israeli military has decided to ban Android phones for senior officers
“Under the expected order, commanders from the rank of lieutenant colonel and above will be permitted to use only iPhones for official communications. The step is aimed at reducing the risk of intrusions on senior officers’ handsets, according to the report.”
So it seems that Israel (one of the leading country in hackers spies for hire) thinks that there’s a lot « Hezbollah honey pot » that target android device
Israeli company Cellebrite sells a device to extract data from locked phones, both Android and iPhones afaik. So indeed I’m guessing their government knows some stuff about the security of both platforms.
Fun fact: comments mentioning Cellebrite get immediately shadow-hidden on Reddit, or at least in some of the main subs.
In 2021, Moxie Marlinspike, creator of the encrypted messaging app Signal, pointed to several vulnerabilities in Cellebrite’s UFED and Physical Analyzer software that allowed for arbitrary code execution on Windows computers running the software. One exploit he detailed involved the UFED scanning a specially formatted file, which could then be used to execute arbitrary code on the computer running the UFED. Marlinspike wrote that the code could then “[modify] not just the Cellebrite report being created in that scan, but also “all previous and future generated Cellebrite reports” from all previously scanned devices and all future scanned devices in any arbitrary way.”[27] Marlinspike also found that Cellebrite software was bundled with out-of-date FFmpeg DLL files from 2012, which lacked over 100 subsequent security updates. Windows Installer packages, extracted from the Windows installer for iTunes and signed by Apple, were also found, which he said raised legal concerns.[28] Cellebrite responded that the company “is committed to protecting the integrity of our customers’ data, and we continually audit and update our software in order to equip our customers with the best digital intelligence solutions available.”[29] The report by Signal followed an announcement by Cellebrite in 2020 that it had developed technology to crack encrypted messages in the Signal app, a claim the company later retracted and downplayed.[30][31] The announcement by Marlinspike raised questions about the integrity of data extracted by the software,[32][33] and prompted Cellebrite to patch some of the vulnerabilities found by Signal and to remove full support for analyzing iPhones.[34][35]
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellebrite
Sounds like it is just malware to me.
Vulnerable software is different from malware.
Iirc there was also the part of the story where the exploit for Cellebrite’s thing was included in Signal, and Marlinspike said that data on any device scanning Signal with Cellebrite software would be poisoned.
What I’m hearing is that even if you aren’t a Signal user, you might benefit from having Signal installed on your device?
I’m guessing things might’ve changed since then, as this story is pretty old. I doubt it that they gotten newer versions of Cellebrite to screw them again.
not surprising . Android phones are insecure and basically Google snoop devices.
Really depends on the phone and how the controlling organization (whether it’s a private company or the IDF) uses MDM/MAM. It’s totally possible to poorly manage iPhones, and if you do they’ll be insecure as hell. If you were to restrict everyone to a specific Android phone model with hardened software, then you could theoretically do better than deploying all iPhones. Hell, you could even put GrapheneOS on them, but that would be quite an undertaking, and I’m not aware of any company doing it at scale.
Because of the homogeneity of iPhones and how strictly Apple controls them, it’s generally simpler for organizations to manage them and ensure all of their employees are using updated software on a relatively secure phone. So that (in my opinion) is why we’re seeing a lot of organizations just say “screw it, only iPhones allowed”.
It’s secure if you’re not stupid and you don’t turn off the safety protocols it literally warns you not to turn off. Stupid people need apple’s domineering control to protect them from themselves
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