The wing doesn’t matter if the eagle is a nazi tbf.
All I want is the freedom to vote how I want and still count my vote if my first choice didn’t win. Democrats should be free to run their political party how they want. Just like how everyone else should be free to participate in our elections. Free of a spoiler effect.
There should be no monopoly on the future of our nation. Republican, or Democrat.
Surely the freedom to vote how people want is not to high a bar for the democrats to clear right? Self proclaimed democracy advocates surely want the people to be represented fully… right?
I would never force a liberal to vote for my preference in a election, why is it okay for them to do that to me?
And it is a conscious decision to force me to vote a certain way. Every election democrats mercilessly rage at 3rd party voters. The Democratic party and their voters understand that First-past-the-post voting is flawed. Yet in blue states, fully in control of the Democratic party, FPTP voting shackles the people.
Democrats understand FPTP voting does a bad job of representing the nation. They ignore this festering gaping mortal wound… all for safe states and easy elections against a complete clown show. One that has defeated them in every way possible.
The monopoly is over democrats. You never deserved it, and you most certainly do not deserve it now in our darkest hours. Get out of the way, we have to move forward as a nation.
The Democratic party is not more important then the United States of America.
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The system can’t be reformed to favor the working class because it was created by & for the owner class, the “donor” class. If necessary they will unleash fascism to maintain control.
The Democratic party is not more important then the United States of America.
They both have to go. There’s never going to be a socialist USA. That can only happen after a revolution leading to an different state with a different name.
I think actually a party guilty of genocide should not be free to run in elections, or even free to remain outside of prison
I don’t think chsnging the voting system will fix this. There is still a 2 party system in australia despite a democracy with preferential voting for over 100 years.
Liberalism has always been right from center. You can put neo in front of it all you’d like.
Neo-it.
The following can all be true:
- The Democrats are a right wing neoliberal party.
- The Democrats are the most left-wing option that is realistically available to American voters.
- The Democrats can be pushed further left if American progressives work to do so.
- The Democrats - at the party level - will resist such a change, but that resistance can still be overcome.
- In the long term, massive structural overhauls and the downfall of capitalism are the only things that will save America and the world
- In the near term, voting consistly and enthusiastically for the least bad option can still protect vulnerable groups from harm and create changes that lay the groundwork for those structural overhauls.
The funny thing about this is that if it were possible to reform the democratic party, it would only be through demanding change, and credibly threatening defection if those demands are not met. By setting conditions and giving those conditions teeth. What you’re suggesting is just asking nicely for people to act directly contrary to their material interests and hoping for the best. It’s complete nonsense.
Also lol at “enthusiastically voting.” Yes, it’s very important that you not only bend the knee to your corporate masters completely unconditionally, but that you do so with a smile on your face. You can trust me, I’m a leftist just like you, see how I say all the language about needing the downfall of capitalism?
I think we’re showing mixed results on your third bullet. It did seem that way, for a while, as we pushed on social issues. And when it came time to get on with the economic issues, the core management team of the party rallied, and rather than adopt the left flank to win, steps right to hand control to Republicans.
And it’s happened more than once now, to obvious and clear effect: the goal of the Democratic party isn’t to win elections, it’s to keep the country idealogically aligned with a neoliberal ruling class. And if that means handing control of government to Republicans, they’ll do so, then blame the left (even though it’s them moving to the right losing elections).
To the fourth bullet, no, it’s not clear that within the machinations of the party infrastructure it can be overcome. Because if not now, when? Party leadership has never been weaker or more vulnerable nor the times more desperate. Democrats as a party poll worse than Trump, yet progressives can win elections with both the entire Republican and Democratic apparatus gunning to take them down. yet somehow we can’t replace Schumer’s or Jefferies.
Skipping to the 6th point, again, that isn’t actually borne out by the evidence. It’s not something well know in advance and only as an artifact of history. What’s been extremely clearly is that so far, voting has been wildly insufficient to make the kinds of structural changes necessary. Obama is the classic example of this. He runs on healthcare, holding wallstreet accountable, and ending the wars; he delivers corporate “access”, bails out the banks, and continues the wars. The voters did their job and the system didn’t work.
So a relentless optimism that the system will just work as intended doesn’t seem warranted, and it’s clearly not going in a good direction.
Until we recognize that the Democratic party, it at least it’s current and historical structure is at the core of the problem with why we can’t advance political change, its pretty clear that this decent into autocracy, fascism, and a degraded quality of life is inevitable. The Democratic party isn’t just part of the problem: it’s the core element of the problem.
You could’ve made this image using paint in under 5 minutes, did you really need to waste half a liter of water to have AI generate it?
OpenAI, and others, lose money on every prompt even with paid subscriptions. The resources will still be wasted by them but to cost them money is priceless.
Election time already?
Nothing new, in a profoundly capitalist structure like the US, there are no other options than to choose between conservatism and fascism, substituting reason for “in God we trust” and “Stars and Stripes”, to keep citizens ignorant and obedient to continue functioning.
“I am angry the overton window has moved so far to the right, I’m going to blame the folks trying to move it leftward”
What hasn’t happened is an IRL movement around a new party or leader. What has happened is lots of “divide the left” memes and posts. I do wonder who that sentiment serves the most.
Left wing starts are anti-capitalism and anti-imperialism. The democrats are complicit in genocide and take money from AIPAC and only care about pleasing their business owners. Also the DNC is a private corporation
The Democratic National Committee is many things but democratic
https://www.drmikekatz.com/the_dnc_and_rnc_are_private_corporations
https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/WildingDNC.pdf
Moving it leftward is when you support two separate groups of genocidal fascists in Israel and Ukraine and whine at leftists for not tactically supporting the fascists enough
Divide the left
You are not on the left. But I do keep seeing a bunch of “How do you do, fellow leftists? We sure do love voting for the 𝓵𝓮𝓼𝓼𝓮𝓻 𝓮𝓿𝓲𝓵, amirite? By the way fuck communists” memes and posts. I wonder who that sentiment serves the most?
And still miles better than the GOP, your point?
Which is their entire platform, which is why the whole thing keeps going further right.
Except the Democratic party doesn’t just block leftward movement. It turns the crank in the same direction, just slower.
In the US we have a 2 party system. I try to support Dem Soc running as Dems, that is the best we have rn.
Dems as a whole are more left wing today than they were 20 years ago, but cool graphic
This is about the party, not the party’s constituency.
Yeah, that’s what im talking about
The current Democratic party is actively genocidal
That’s your standard?
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The Whig party died because it failed to address the whig voters’ concerns over slave states. The Whigs in charge were too busy trying to find a moderate choice between traditional whig and democratic policies since the Whigs consisted of both northern and southern slave states and were too spineless to pick a side. Zachary Taylor (W), who had never voted or voiced his political opinion prior to running, won the nomination because whig voters in the convention thought being a middle ground candidate was enough to win. And he did win, but…
After Zachary Taylor was president, Winfield Scott (W), who was running a diet-democratic campaign seeing how it worked with Taylor, was running against Franklin Pierce (D), a dark horse candidate who wasn’t even in the running until the 35th ballot at a stalled democratic convention. Scott, having lost the anti-slavery voters of the northern states, had an enthusiasm issue so big that people of the time regard this is one of the least exciting campaigns in presidential history. After Pierce won the election 254 electoral votes to 42, Free Soil and ex-Whig voters coalesced into the republican party. The whig party had been killed.
If your party isn’t giving what people are pleading for or isn’t a real opposition party, it’s easier killing the party and starting fresh with something better than trying to lure the lost party back to your own values. And if we’re already putting forth all that effort to build up a new party when one dies, why not be cool and make a revolutionary vanguard party instead of filling the vacuum in bourgeois elections?
Never forget that the right-left spectrum is a myth
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This is how we ended up with Trump again btw.
Always remember that left and right are difficult terms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left–right_political_spectrum
In Germany Harris would have been conservative CDU (the most conservative/right party before the AfD turned up) and Trump would have been in the AfD. However, CDU is still fine. Nothing bad about being conservative. I disagree with most of their opinions but they are valid political opinions. AfD and Trump share political opinions that are undemocratic, dangerous and stupid.
Sure, Jan.
