• Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Those that lack empathy hate that people are right about their hidden feelings. The reason for that is empathy is real and no amount of shade thrown on it negates that.

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      2 days ago

      It’s always been my understanding that the term empath implies some sort of higher sense that not everyone is capable of. Similar to some extra sensory ability. Though I may be incorrect. I’ve never read anything jabbing at “empaths” as jabs at empathy as a concept.

      Edit: Phone autocorrected “empaths” to “empathy”, oops.

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        I don’t immediately know another persons mood and temperament. I can however get a good read on it in a matter of minutes. If I’m around someone regularly I invariably identity if they lack of empathy by how cruel they react to anthers misfortune. Nothing extra sensory about it. Its just empathy.

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          And I’m saying that’s not what I typically think people mean when they say they’re an empath. I mean they mean something more than that.

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              And I’ve met plenty of people who can pick up on people’s moods and know that people who mock others’ misfortunes are cruel without calling themselves empaths.

              For what it’s worth, that’s essentially how Wikipedia describes it:

              Empath (/ˈɛmpæθ/; from Ancient Greek ἐμπάθεια (empátheia) ‘passion’) is a term for people who are claimed to have a higher than usual level of empathy.

              In parapsychology, the mechanism for being an empath is said to be psychic channeling; psychics and mediums say that they channel the emotional states and experiences of other living beings, or the spirits of dead people, in the form of “emotional resonance.” Studies of such claims have found them to be the result of mundane empathy and charisma, with no actual supernatural capabilities involved.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empath

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                2 days ago

                Go away. I’m starting to think you are just trolling. Or you are one of those without it at all. Could be either but I’m done with this.

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                  2 days ago

                  I have empathy. I am not trolling. Just having a discussion online. Tone doesn’t always come across well oger text. Just thought it was important to share that I really really don’t think people who say things like this are saying empathy is bad.

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      I feel like I’m completely detached from this social relation. I find self proclaimed “empaths” mostly just annoying or unconvincing. I don’t really have any hatred for them.

      People misread my feelings all the time. Then again I’m autistic and default to a poker face like 90% of the time unless I exert effort to emote.

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          You sounds like a conservative. “I don’t understand how someone doesn’t believe what I believe so they must be somehow intrinsically evil.”

          EDIT: Also I don’t think anyone was saying they don’t believe empathy is real, but that self proclaimed “empaths” are usually full of shit.

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      Emotional abuse is real too. This isn’t mindreading. It’s not prediction. It’s anticipation. And it’s emotionally discarding the people around you.

      Empathy isn’t even part of what this is the moment you are throwing or feeling any shade.

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        Any empath who has familiarity enough with it will acknowledge that, like any other thing you see externally, mistakes can be made. With empathy, those can go pretty deep, too.

        That said, I’d no more discard empathy than I would vision, and I’m not fool enough to discard a sense just because I’m not always right about how I interpret it.