• merc@sh.itjust.works
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    1 day ago

    Red light cameras may not be effective at making streets safer. But, they’re nearly 100% effective at making people who run red lights pay fines. The first one would be amazing, but I’m happy to settle for the second one.

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      1 day ago

      You sound like someone who can likes rich people getting away with just paying fines for being rich assholes

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        22 hours ago

        And you sound like someone who wants to be able to run red lights without consequences.

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          20 hours ago

          No, I just want traffic lights enforced without being in a surveilance state, but the better solution is just to make more streets illegal to have cars instead of adding lights, and add bus routes instead

          But people will be lazy and say eh, surveilance state is good enough for me since Im not affected! More buses. Fewer cars. Fewer lights necessary and fewer surveliance cameras necessary.

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            6 hours ago

            without being in a surveilance state

            Those cameras only activate when people run a red light, right? And if they don’t, that’s the problem that should be fixed, not taking down the whole thing instead. People following the rules and not endanger others is kinda a good thing.

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        1 day ago

        The problem is not the cameras then, but the fines. Should be proportional to net worth

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          1 day ago

          we both know thatll never happen in america, and until then its a law for poors only, as designed. Its continued existence only affects poor people