Side note, does it count as a shower thought when it was conceived while sitting on the toilet? Do we have toilet-sitting-thoughts communities?

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    Worse. It’s “attempting to understand this might cause me to question my faith, so I’m not going to even try.”

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        It’s generally directed at the person doing the questioning so I think it’s more: “STFU you little twerp, how dare you attack me and my fairy stories”

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          The last time my in-laws said that to me I asked them what their gods plan was when he gave their daughter leukemia.

          “to test us”

          “Well I’m glad you’re comfortable devoting your lives to someone who gives a 2 year old cancer, that’s beyond my capabilities.”

          Juuuuust enough to sound like it could be a compliment but with a clear backhand because honestly… Wtf is that logic.

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        Meh. I think of this (and similar sentiments in other religions) as the equivalent of an aknowledgement of the butterfly effect, unforseen circumstances and the reality that we as humans have little control over the world and can’t see into the future.

        TLDR: maybe the baby needed to die.

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    “My external locus of control comforts me and I’d prefer it not be challenged thank you very much.”

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    God heals, but always within the exact parameters of what is possible by the modern medicine of that exact era.

    Amputees unfortunately can still go fuck themselves.

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      Yeah I don’t understand religions that view medicine with scepticism but practice prayer with complete confidence. If I was religious I’d see modern medicine as a mericle. We can cure most cancers easily. Granted not all cancers but most.

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        I’m not religious, yet I spend a lot of time in church. Consider this: many of life’s problems are solved by brainpower. I get about 90 minutes a week of uninterrupted time to sit and think about anything I want. Plus, people sing to me while I think.

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    Any time spent trying to puzzle out “God’s plan” is wasted effort.

    Just be good to yourself and others.

    If God isn’t happy with that, we were all doomed to begin with.

    “Don’t fear the gods; don’t worry about death; what is good is easy to achieve, and what is bad is easy to avoid.” – Epicurus

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    The sentiment appears really early on in the book of Job which has the character Elihu jumping in to what was effectively an adaptation of the earlier dialogue on the injustice of suffering in the Babylonian Theodicy to claim that God’s purpose and motivations are unknowable because why it rains and where snow comes from is beyond human understanding.

    Now that why it rains is literally a nursery rhyme, maybe we should really adjust our thinking about just how undecipherable a potential creator of the universe is.

    For example, religious traditions that believe God is light (1 John 1:5) and believe it was an intelligent designer of the universe might want to think a bit more on the design detail that light when unobserved can be more than one thing at once, and can even be different things to different eventual observers. At very least, you’d think that would give them pause in their commitment to the idea of absolutely defining who or what their God is for everyone else.

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    It’s some sort of cognitive dissonance that also gives credence to coincidence.

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    I don’t believe in god. However, I can see this argument having some merit. Think of all the stuff we do to and for our pets that probably confuses the crap out of them, like putting them in a car and taking them to the vet.

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      True, but I bet you’d communicate that to your pet if that was within your power to do so. In fact, if you could magically cure your pet you’d do that too.

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      Nope, it was proven that animals know vets are helping them. They just don’t know they need to be helped. The argument doesn’t have any merit. If you don’t know something, you should tell yourself “let’s figure it out” instead of “there’s a reason this all powerful being does this weird shit”.