• causepix@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    How can you make an accurate assessment of what Russia is going to do when you reject any speech or facts that don’t line up with your worldview; which you haven’t done the investigation to justify; as “Kremlin talking points”?? The evidence to prove something true or false doesn’t cease to exist just because it serves the interests of one side or the other, yet some folks seem to think that this accusation completely absolves them of dealing in reality.

    It doesn’t do you any favors to pretend that Russia is the only actor involved that can spin up a narrative to support their actions. If you manage to get brainwashed by briefly considering the opposing point of view in order to understand what makes your own position valid, your initial position must have been standing on pretty shaky ground.

    What makes you think russia will stop?

    What makes you think they won’t?

    Putin has put up numerous deals to stop the invasion, even as far back as two months before it even started, if the US would just agree not to expand NATO onto Russia’s border. Ukraine and the US have rejected these deals. What evidence do you have to say that Russia would violate such an agreement? If you disagree that this conflict is about NATO; what, other than the question of Ukrainian NATO membership, has changed in the last 25 years for Putin to suddenly decide to expand Russia’s borders? If Russia had the will or capacity to do this expansion that you are describing, why would they be offering peace deals?

    I mean Putin states he won’t, and that the baltics are on the menu too.

    When did Putin say that? I want a direct quote.

    Should we just let them go to russia?

    No. Do you know what diplomacy is? How a treaty works?

    The Kremlin are attacking all their neighbours (except china lol)

    That’s news to me. What neighbors has Russia attacked other than Ukraine?

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        2 days ago

        Oh no, somebody that is unable to justify their worldview and instead resorts to thought-terminating cliches when receiving the smallest amount of pushback. How could I have guessed.

        Oh well. I suppose the only thing to do is keep the war machine turning with european tax dollars, let it grind up a steady supply of Ukrainian bodies, and pretend that this creates any sort of peace or stability in the region. But I’m the “tankie” lmfao