But it was not going to win the election, much less restore the republic.
We knew being not the other guy was not enough, that the other guys are nazis, that the electorate does not know that.
So explain to me why forcing a doomed to fail strategy is not disqualifying for dem establishment figures?
Even now you regurgitate their projections of blame? Why should anyone trust your analysis of anything if you still trust those establishment conservatives to run the dem party while you are at it?
The reasonable choice was to vote for Kamala out of sheer harm reduction. Throwing a hissy fit and taking your ball and going home because you think we should be playing a different game helped nobody.
You are vote shaming which is neither here nor there.
The question is knowing status quo candidates whose only selling point is they are harm reduction, was not enough to win, let alone with the most unpopular candidate they had on offer, never breaching 30 pc approval all term pre anointation, the vp of a prez at 40 pc for 3 years.
You knew the situation, but trusted the same people that gave us hillary and biden, to run a doomed to fail strategy.
So how is it reasonable to appoint kamala, and accept her and the status quo strategy knowing it was throwing the game?
Yes, I am vote shaming. You don’t seem to understand that you had two options. Harris could have been the second shittest candidate to ever run for the office and she still would have been a preferable choice. I think that by failing to oppose mask-off fascism in this admittedly tiny but still quite meaningful way, you do bear some small amount of blame for the state of things.
To wit: If you couldn’t hold your nose and vote for a bad candidate to stop the candidate who everyone knew would be much worse, I do not want to form a coalition with you and I certainly do not want to climb into a trench with you.
I’m not sure where you are getting this delusion that I chose any sort of strategy. She was a shit candidate. If I could have stopped them from anointing her, I would have. They didn’t ask me. My best option – everyone’s best option – was still to vote for her, because the alternative was worse.
Yet you aggressively pass the buck for those that did force her, blaming everyone else?
So the same people are in charge to do it again.
I don’t believe you either, I bet you yelled down everyone advocating for a winning candidate and or a winning strategy. If you believed the establishment in blaming voters for their doomed strategy, you trusted them to know what they are doing.
Take some responsibility, you knew or should’ve known people would not choose the lesser of two evils indefinitely, especially with the country ratcheting so hard to the plutocracy. As if the status quo was acceptable at this point. How divorced are you from reality?
You will never be the swing voter, but the only way your vote doesn’t count at all is if you don’t cast it. The republicans have fought for half a century to suppress voter turnout, and sadly it has worked. Throwing up your hands and saying “well, if they don’t want me to vote I suppose I simply will not vote” is worse than useless.
Throwing your vote into a hungry pit is also worse than useless. Trump didn’t even get a majority! President 49.9 enjoys power solely because the electoral system is anti-democratic and doesn’t do runoffs, and he only won the first time because of the electoral college. He attempted a fucking coup and we didn’t put him in prison, and as a result Jan 6th is the most successful US political movement in my lifetime. This country is fucked, and it’s clear Republicans have no plans to allow any electoral input ever again.
Will there even be midterms? Who knows! It’s time to think about what you’ll do when you can’t vote anymore.
I’m Canadian dipshit, I don’t have any particular connection to one party or the other. It was clear as day that Kamala was a status quo politician, and Trump was going to do pretty much what he is doing. Actually I didn’t think Trump would be this bad in fact.
There is just no universe where you justify that having a milquetoast politician is worse than whatever the fuck this fascist nightmare is. And it was clear as day to anyone who wasn’t an abject moron.
What are you doing actively helping to ratfuck the opposition party anyway? Insufferable to the end. Enjoy your own ratfucked politics, you earned what you will end up with.
The dude is so petty he’s applying his single meagre downvote to every one of the people that calls him out on his bullshit. He’s so fired up over it he simply must downvote it, in order to flex even the extremely minimum amount of power he has.
Thankfully, I don’t think he is representative of the majority of Americans, if he is American at all.
You are sitting here castigating me for saying the establishment democrats threw the game. Now you are passing the buck for how you pass the buck for those establishment democrats. Typical.
Syphillis is objectively better than aids.
But it was not going to win the election, much less restore the republic.
We knew being not the other guy was not enough, that the other guys are nazis, that the electorate does not know that.
So explain to me why forcing a doomed to fail strategy is not disqualifying for dem establishment figures?
Even now you regurgitate their projections of blame? Why should anyone trust your analysis of anything if you still trust those establishment conservatives to run the dem party while you are at it?
This is parody, right?
You cannot be serious. I levied questions about how the election was thrown by the dems from the start.
You cannot answer with reason.
The reasonable choice was to vote for Kamala out of sheer harm reduction. Throwing a hissy fit and taking your ball and going home because you think we should be playing a different game helped nobody.
You are vote shaming which is neither here nor there.
The question is knowing status quo candidates whose only selling point is they are harm reduction, was not enough to win, let alone with the most unpopular candidate they had on offer, never breaching 30 pc approval all term pre anointation, the vp of a prez at 40 pc for 3 years.
You knew the situation, but trusted the same people that gave us hillary and biden, to run a doomed to fail strategy.
So how is it reasonable to appoint kamala, and accept her and the status quo strategy knowing it was throwing the game?
Yes, I am vote shaming. You don’t seem to understand that you had two options. Harris could have been the second shittest candidate to ever run for the office and she still would have been a preferable choice. I think that by failing to oppose mask-off fascism in this admittedly tiny but still quite meaningful way, you do bear some small amount of blame for the state of things.
To wit: If you couldn’t hold your nose and vote for a bad candidate to stop the candidate who everyone knew would be much worse, I do not want to form a coalition with you and I certainly do not want to climb into a trench with you.
You are still making the better candidate argument. Rather ad nauseum too.
That argument is superceded by knowing the lesser of argument would fail, you chose it anyway.
You chose a failed strategy, now are blaming everyone else, rather insufferably at that, assuming peoples’ votes to further obscuring the issue.
You helped the republicans win more than the maga voters.
I’m not sure where you are getting this delusion that I chose any sort of strategy. She was a shit candidate. If I could have stopped them from anointing her, I would have. They didn’t ask me. My best option – everyone’s best option – was still to vote for her, because the alternative was worse.
Yet you aggressively pass the buck for those that did force her, blaming everyone else?
So the same people are in charge to do it again.
I don’t believe you either, I bet you yelled down everyone advocating for a winning candidate and or a winning strategy. If you believed the establishment in blaming voters for their doomed strategy, you trusted them to know what they are doing.
Take some responsibility, you knew or should’ve known people would not choose the lesser of two evils indefinitely, especially with the country ratcheting so hard to the plutocracy. As if the status quo was acceptable at this point. How divorced are you from reality?
Actually, I didn’t get any options because I live in a red state and my vote doesn’t count. Stop pretending we have democracy.
You will never be the swing voter, but the only way your vote doesn’t count at all is if you don’t cast it. The republicans have fought for half a century to suppress voter turnout, and sadly it has worked. Throwing up your hands and saying “well, if they don’t want me to vote I suppose I simply will not vote” is worse than useless.
Throwing your vote into a hungry pit is also worse than useless. Trump didn’t even get a majority! President 49.9 enjoys power solely because the electoral system is anti-democratic and doesn’t do runoffs, and he only won the first time because of the electoral college. He attempted a fucking coup and we didn’t put him in prison, and as a result Jan 6th is the most successful US political movement in my lifetime. This country is fucked, and it’s clear Republicans have no plans to allow any electoral input ever again.
Will there even be midterms? Who knows! It’s time to think about what you’ll do when you can’t vote anymore.
I’m Canadian dipshit, I don’t have any particular connection to one party or the other. It was clear as day that Kamala was a status quo politician, and Trump was going to do pretty much what he is doing. Actually I didn’t think Trump would be this bad in fact.
There is just no universe where you justify that having a milquetoast politician is worse than whatever the fuck this fascist nightmare is. And it was clear as day to anyone who wasn’t an abject moron.
You call me a dipshit, but I knew kamala would lose and you did not.
What does that make you?
Buddy your country is collapsing to dogshit, and you’re proud about the fact that you knew it would happen and you voted for it?
I hope you’re not a real person because if you are I suspect a serious TBI and your family members might be in danger.
What are you doing actively helping to ratfuck the opposition party anyway? Insufferable to the end. Enjoy your own ratfucked politics, you earned what you will end up with.
Joe…?
Do you think voting works like betting?
The dude is so petty he’s applying his single meagre downvote to every one of the people that calls him out on his bullshit. He’s so fired up over it he simply must downvote it, in order to flex even the extremely minimum amount of power he has.
Thankfully, I don’t think he is representative of the majority of Americans, if he is American at all.
Answer the question. How is a doomed to fail strategy other peoples’ fault?
You better chase after that other poster, because that’s not something I ever said.
You are sitting here castigating me for saying the establishment democrats threw the game. Now you are passing the buck for how you pass the buck for those establishment democrats. Typical.