(Usually I would be agaimst this, but Joe Rogan helped Trump a lot)
Why does anyone give a shit about what dumb dumb Rogan thinks? A white dude with a microphone.
Because he has the ear of a lot of young men who disagree with us. He’s a douche and an idiot, I dislike him and I lose respect for someone when they say they’re a fan of his. But, a lot of the young right wing men who can be shown reason love him and trust what he has to say.
Are you serious?
You’re wondering why does anyone give a shit about the guy who choked on Trump’s dick for the past 10 years, the guy who believed any anti-left wing conspiracy theory, the guy who had a hand in spreading QAnon bullshit, the guy who really put his considerable weight into getting Trump elected while completely whitewashing him and calling out people criticising him as having the “Trump Derangement Syndrome”, THAT guy, is now criticising Trump and his policies?
This is what you’re having a difficult time understanding?
Plus he’s an incredibly influential media personality. 20 million people give a shit about what he thinks.
People like him helped Trump win.
People like him are the only people Trump supporters might listen to.
If you ever hope to sway a few Trump supporters, this is the only sort of way to do it. Give them an out, give them a way to say “well we didn’t know it would be like this”. To the extent it was always obvious that they should have known it would be like this, just swallow it, smile and nod at their change in support.
If you ever hope to sway a few Trump supporters, this is the only sort of way to do
People only change their mind from in-group pressure. (That and, sometimes, horrible personal trauma). It’s sad and stupid, but that’s how humans work.
If you want to change trumpers’ minds, you need them to see you as in-group. Otherwise emotions prevail and they won’t listen.
I cannot fathom how a person can be this stupid and then he opens his mouth and blows my mind again and again and again.
Gosh I would be so sad if Joe Rogan was executed by ICE for failing to rub his tummy and pat his head at the same time.
Man I hate how this guy started showing up in feeds because he’s sowy.
When is Joe going to stop talking about and admonishing the collective and actually make it personally reflective? Even Schulz actually reflects on his personal error, but Joe cannot risk alienating his audience who supported it, or still do. He has to appear like the ‘cool guy just asking questions’, not the ‘brainless idiot who got out of his depth and enabled fascism’. He can’t stand the hit to his self image as a great judge of authenticity/bullshit (truly the most discrepant self image in media). So he adopts the standard comedian rhetorical trick used to build rapport: He talks in the passive, ‘are we really that type of people’ voice. It is an influencer mindset, obsessed with audience.
These guys are total frauds. They completely sold out, assuming they had principles before. They never shut up about Hopf’s “hard times create strong men”, because they clearly think these are the hard times and they are the strong MMA tough men, but there’s no way life is hard for these pampered-ass multimillionaires living in their mansions, and if you took all that away we’d find out they’re as soft as baby shit.
Thanks to the efforts of Joe Rogan, yes
Give it a few days Joe will switch his opinion on it.
Hey Joe, fuck you, you half wit idiot with a massive platform. I hope you rot when Satan punishes you.
Yes, Joe. You always were. You are the villain in the story that made all of this possible.
Yes but rogan’s betrayal was not possible without the party forcing unwinnable strategies with the most unpopular choice, without a single challenge. None for house or senate either.
First thing is first, the dem party running opposition is multiplying this massive formula by zero right at the start.
Not entirely sure why you’re getting downvoted, yeah, I’m sure not close to a fraction of what has happened would happen under Kamala, but, they are beholden to the exact same billionaire Epstein class donors that the other side was, and she wouldn’t have cut out the rot that was festering in the idiot swamp. It would just keep festering.
We certainly have the benefit of hindsight, and I could have told any one it would be bad, but a lot of this seems like it might have been inevitable one way or another. You might as well call the dems controlled opposition with how inept they’ve been in the face of existential threat. The fight is hardly left/right, it’s up/down. It’s just the upper class knows to use the violent people in the lower class against each other, through desperation and propaganda, while they all collude at the top.
The dems are still playing good cop to r bad, for donors. Ratcheting to plutocracy.
But r’s are not playing bad cop, they are playing hitler, in the open, for a faction of that plutocracy. We all knew it or should have. Anointing kamala without challenge to run as status quo against a reform ticket is beyond foolish, into knowingly throwing the game.
Arguing kamala is better misses that she could not win and anyone that did not realize that lacks credibility on any subject.
Until they admit they were wrong to trust the establishment, and outlines how they are going to change that.
Frankly it is the least they must do if we want to take the country from the party openly planning on fixing elections and persecuting the opposition and you know, the whole nazi thing.
Probably too late already. Maybe a chance in the succession, with a Popular Reform ticket aggressively pursuing a New Deal.
Kamala was objectively a better choice than Trump, it was obvious to anyone who wasn’t brain rotted by people like Rogan.
Syphillis is objectively better than aids.
But it was not going to win the election, much less restore the republic.
We knew being not the other guy was not enough, that the other guys are nazis, that the electorate does not know that.
So explain to me why forcing a doomed to fail strategy is not disqualifying for dem establishment figures?
Even now you regurgitate their projections of blame? Why should anyone trust your analysis of anything if you still trust those establishment conservatives to run the dem party while you are at it?
This is parody, right?
You cannot be serious. I levied questions about how the election was thrown by the dems from the start.
You cannot answer with reason.
The reasonable choice was to vote for Kamala out of sheer harm reduction. Throwing a hissy fit and taking your ball and going home because you think we should be playing a different game helped nobody.
You are vote shaming which is neither here nor there.
The question is knowing status quo candidates whose only selling point is they are harm reduction, was not enough to win, let alone with the most unpopular candidate they had on offer, never breaching 30 pc approval all term pre anointation, the vp of a prez at 40 pc for 3 years.
You knew the situation, but trusted the same people that gave us hillary and biden, to run a doomed to fail strategy.
So how is it reasonable to appoint kamala, and accept her and the status quo strategy knowing it was throwing the game?
I’m Canadian dipshit, I don’t have any particular connection to one party or the other. It was clear as day that Kamala was a status quo politician, and Trump was going to do pretty much what he is doing. Actually I didn’t think Trump would be this bad in fact.
There is just no universe where you justify that having a milquetoast politician is worse than whatever the fuck this fascist nightmare is. And it was clear as day to anyone who wasn’t an abject moron.
You call me a dipshit, but I knew kamala would lose and you did not.
What does that make you?
That assclown wants leopards on his face, huh?
‘Rogan said it was “very ugly to watch someone shoot a U.S. citizen, especially a woman, in the face.”’
It’s very ugly to watch anyone shoot another person in the face.
FTFY, you scumbag
and roegan you and J peterson are russian mouth-pieces, was the one that whipped up people to do it.
Fuck this “but I am not a fascist, only enabled them, I’m not like those!!!” asshole
“I just turned in my neighbour, I didn’t purge them.”
Wow, if the guy himself did not enable this crap…
