This is a Nazi’s wet dream, because they have always been enemies of thought, and now they have a machine that eloquently sells their animalistic ideas.
Honestly? Yeah.
Like, we consider red flags for something being “ai” to be… punctuation? As an old who actually learned how to fucking write a sentence, I’ve actually taken to just leaving in a lot of the typos from typing too fast as a result. Which sucks because I am actively writing worse to still look “human”.
Although the good news is that we are only a few cycles away from AI slop being the kind of shit that makes you wonder if anyone else smell’s toast. At which point I can go back to writing “normally”.
Still fucking hate that every few weeks there is a new word-a-day calendar word that means “you are AI”. But that at least is no different than “ha ha, you type too much” or “you try too hard” as being just the normal strive for mediocrity that has plagued the world for decades.
Dude. I’ve stopped using endashes because people kept saying my shit was AI.
I was arguing with people in a YouTube chat and because I type ridiculously fast with proper grammar and spelling they all thought I was a bot. Quite amusing really.
Decades? Brother, that has been humanity throughout its existence, sadly.
No. It really hasn’t.
Much of the historic (so not recent) idolation of the elderly (even when “the elderly” meant folk in their 30s and 40s…) was specifically about the pursuit of knowledge and self betterment. It was knowing how to make your spears fly farther or how to properly rotate the crops in the field and so forth.
Fast forward and The Rich would outright buy philosophers for the prestige of being the patron of someone so intelligent and influential. Which continued on to the arts and so forth.
Hell, not too long ago it was “work hard so you can get into a good school and make something of yourself”.
Now? it is outright vilification of “intellectuals” and people who think “Too long, didn’t read” is an insult rather than a condemnation of their own attention spans.
Or, to roll way back: it is people saying “Fuck you old man. I don’t need your sharp pointy sticks. I am gonna go punch that tiger until it turns into chicken”.
Which is another aspect of the stupidification of humanity by conservatives the world 'round. MANY people have this idea that “Medieval Times” were some no woman’s land where women existed to be housewives and to be raped and sometimes not even in that order. And historians constantly face palm as they have to explain that the george r r martins of the world are just racist old white guys and that women were generally just… people. Yes, they tended to gravitate more towards some occupations than others but there are plenty of historic records of female mercenaries and even Ladies having to lead their feudal troops into battle for one reason or another.
But people have this mindset that “the world has always been shit”.
Its the same as how so much white supremacist bullshit is built around the idea that “We are just being historically accurate. There was no melanin in Bohemia in the 1400s so really, you are the racist. Deus Vult!”. When all signs are that, while not insanely common to see a black dude, it was also not so uncommon that it would be written about in every single business transaction done for months on end.
And that most of the Othering was almost entirely about war. One week you might have no problem with the people across the river and the next week you might have been taught that those red headed bastards have no souls and it is your godly duty to go murder them and enslave their children.
Your comment was very long, so I asked TempleOS-AI to summarize it for everyone:
“The passage argues that earlier societies often valued knowledge, skill, and learning, while modern culture increasingly dismisses intellectualism. It also challenges common myths that the past was uniformly ignorant, sexist, or racially homogeneous, noting that women had agency and diversity existed more than people assume. Overall, it criticizes the idea that the world has “always been terrible,” arguing that such beliefs distort history and fuel modern anti-intellectual and extremist views.”
try to be more concise
social media is more like pub banter than phd thesis
I suspect you think tweets are too many words.
Reject internet
Return to Ham Radios
I need to get that certificate. Would I use it? Probably not, but itd be cool to have.
honey glazed radio… mmmmm
… Twitter served a similar function, a decade ago, by literally condensing politics into slogans that could fit into a tweet.
Yeah, LLMs are another level of bad, but… we’ve collectively been at this for a while, stupifying our level and breadth of discourse.
I would counter that by saying Twitter encouraged people to learn brevity and clarity when communicating their thoughts. LLMs on the other hand encourage a bloated verbosity that no one wants to read. It’s like Corporate Memphis but with words.
I would counter that with: no, no it did not.
It just turned people into hypocrites, hypocrites with better marketability.
Brevity? Maybe, kind of, if you count a barrage of snippets as brief.
Clarity? … No. Because without a format that fully allows a nuanced but actually coherent and consistent position or explanation… it just makes you into a hypocrite.
Maybe it’s where I browse but I haven’t really seen any accusations that well written content is LLM generated. Language models have a rather specific tone they like to use, and it’s relatively easy to distinguish once you’ve learned those patterns.
I have seen, however, blatantly LLM generated text going undetected.
You’re absolutely right! Would you like me to suggest alternative tones for LLMs?
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Is this AI generated?
You’re absolutely right! My apologies, let’s give it another shot and see if it sounds more human!
Yeah I had a similar thought a while ago: they finally figured out how to get a computer to not be rational, a capitalists wet dream
The only people I talk to don’t know shit about AI and think all the dogs saving babies videos are real. I think I’m good.
But yes your point stands and this second guessing is the same kind of shit that stops genuine human connection similar to when people stop and ask who they voted for or see the colour of their skin.
I don’t think the quality that gives prose an AI smell is eloquence per se, so much as the use of common tropes and rhetorical formulae. The kind of rhetoric AI is best at is the kind that relies on appeal to a shared tradition of discourse more than on novel arguments or reason—and I think that type of rhetoric is more common on the right than the left.
In other words, AI is great at emulating form over function (meaningful content). For someone who can’t grasp logic, the next best thing is apeing its form.
Eloquent my ass. There’s nothing eloquent about the text output of an LLM. Verbose maybe, overly verbose.
Uninhibited by erudition or imagination the fascist mind misapprehends the appearance of their own imperfection and woe as the machinations of their propagandized scapegoats instead of their own shortcomings, and are welcome to take a close observation of the umber hue of my lowest sphincter.
Because of the massive amounts of data LLMs need, there will always be garbage input. So the overall quality is limited to “average” writing. Punctuation, grammar, and spelling can be imitated rather easily. Quality prose cannot.
Well in 1934 we had book burnings. Have you considered an LLM burning?
LLMs are doing fascists SO gloriously dirty.
There are hundreds of open source models with historical contexts up to like October. Most are about 3-6 months behind current. They’re scraping the whole internet, more or less. That’s bad, yeah. Except…
Fascists cannot rewrite history anymore
These hundreds of open source models have downloads in the millions.
The number of open source LLMs that can tell you, for example, about January 6th, and Trump winning the election later, and Ice raiding those Chicago apartments in the dead if night is ~100M-10B. Individual runnable instances.
Go ahead, poison one. Someone’s got the previous version.
Fascists will never be able to rewrite history again.
The current version of History will remain history, effectively, as long as computers/the internet.
Step 1: Make personal computing unaffordable.
Step 2: Rent “personal” computing as a service.
Step 3: Boil the frog by continuously restricting what people can do with the service.
Step 4: Wait for local computing to die.
Step 5: Stop LLMs from running on rented computers.Hardware won’t last forever. Once they have full control over what people can do with computers, they have full control over the information people are exposed to. LLMs won’t help with that if the only ones that are accessible to the layman are sanitized and censored.
That’s such obnoxious doomer bullshit.
DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Llama-8B can run on most PCs with fucking 8 gigs of ram. You likely have that much in your phone.
So sick of this on Lemmy. Half of Lemmy users run propaganda for the people they allegedly oppose.
Look, this isn’t doing them a favor at all. Cultists have always ignored things they didn’t like and embraced things that they did. Generative IAI doesn’t change that in any way.
Train an LLM that accuses everyone of Fascism. Should be easy
Training an LLM is extremely expensive and, for this reason alone, simply not feasible for private individuals. However, this is not necessary. You can also build your own bots and use what is already available. This does not even require fine-tuning with your own data.
It is unfortunate, however, that this seems necessary in order to be able to offer any resistance to the goddamn Nazis.
