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Assume it’s all AI and don’t engage. Go learn to play guitar.
This might need to be the way forward.
Internet was fun, that was a really sick 30 years, but GG.
But then you are just training and generating music with AI… (Acoustic Instruments)
Get an electric guitar then.
I just adjusted my way of thinking. Before it was “this video is staged, until proven otherwise”, now it’s “this video is AI, until proven otherwise”.
Also dont forget about the bots!
My spouse yelled at me after she showed me too many AI videos, and I would watch it and 1) if it’s under 15 seconds, 2) too good to be true, 3) has unrealistic physics, and/or 4) has AI artifacts, I wouldn’t enjoy the video, and just say “yeah, that’s AI.”
She just wants to enjoy the videos, and didn’t care if staged or AI or what. She likes the concept of what’s on the video. AI takes that away from me, and not her, apparently.
Honestly I’ll take staged videos. At least it’s real humans doing it.
One of the things that makes a staged video less troubling is that the staging itself always comes with tells. Camera angles, cuts, framing, and of course actual staging.
AI videos can have that too, but they aren’t the inherent tells. AI tells are unnatural: bodies that shift in subtle ways, objects warped or merging outside the center of frame. It’s not stuff that you look for because it’s not stuff that actually happens in nature, or even in human constructed CGI all that often. But it does add up to a sense of uncanny valley.
“I’ll take people shitting into my mouth over dogs. At least it’s real humans doing it.”
But that’s the point for the AI owners. To get people to not care about the destruction of your brain, the world, our income, our art, etc.
At that point, when we stop pushing back, AI slop peddlers have won.
If the video is obvious a fake and overexaggerated, I dont mind AI videos. Its no different than the shitposts people made before. But its the click farming shit that really irks me.
If someone were to say to you “why did the chicken cross the road?” You wouldn’t demand that there is actually a chicken. You would accept it as a framework for a joke.
The same holds true for staged videos or AI or anything. Is the framework important to the point? A video claiming people can fly and using AI as proof… That’s problematic. A staged bit where it would still be funny if it was just told verbally by a standup comedian? Who cares how real it is, the realness was never the point, the concept of the situation was.
Almost all comedy movies are just long staged bits.
And “how funny would this be if a standup comedian told this as a joke” vs “the context of this potentially actually happening is very important to the underlying humor of it” is a variable line for people. And that’s ok. Unless someone is in danger (don’t let someone jump off a cliff because ai said they can fly), other people’s lines don’t really affect you
It’s kind of a shame you’re getting down voted for this. It’s a perfectly reasonable perspective, and makes sense.
I feel like the photorealism is what makes it bad. When you notice it’s fake you feel lied to. If it’s a cartoon, or blatantly cartoonish, it doesn’t.
When you sit down to watch a movie, you know it isn’t real. When you watch media coverage of current events, you should not have to guess if it is or isn’t.
I agree. But that’s wrong because lying about current events is wrong. This is what I meant about framework. AI is a tool in that regard and not the problem. There is plenty of “real” journalism out there spreading lies too that I have problems with.
I’m fortunate I guess that most of the AI slop I dismiss is things more akin to baby panda sneezing scares mom panda. Where it doesn’t REALLY matter if it’s real because there are no consequences. It’s either funny or it’s not.
news has been lying to people long before AI
So add fuel to the fire right?
honestly…seems like AI-slop is making things so bad that it’s pushing people away back into real life, so…kinda
I do hate being a cynical bastard but the slopification of the internet has made me this way.
Just another flavor of cynicism for me. Before AI, I would look at most “cute” animal videos and just see an animal performing a trained trick under the guise of “Omg, LOOK my dogs love spontaneously hugging each other, isn’t that cute??!!”
People have ALWAYS lied on the internet.
Or the contrived stories. “He does this every day until we feed him <3”
“This [specie of animal] hid in the corner every day for [X] [months/years] until one day THIS happened! (wait for it)”
Yeah this was my reaction, before AI cynicism there was “this is obviously scripted” cynicism and then even tropes that built on it like nothing ever happens
There was a wave of “sleepy baby animals collapsing in sleep together” on Spez’s site until someone figured out most of them were “sleepy” because they were drugged.
Just like a lot of animal rescue videos. Horrible, heartbreaking animal abuse, staged to look like an act of heroism.
I used to watch those videos on YT a lot, until I suddenly pieced it together, that two cats had the very same markings, and figured out what their scam was, I felt so disgusted I ended up making a massive rant and telling every person I knew for months.
next you’ll tell me people don’t always tell the truth on the internet or to not always believe what you read in the newspaper
People lied way before the internet; Look at the octopus jump to escape the holding tank (crew poured bleach). Staged stuff like that has been going since recording was possible … they even staged pictures.
How to avoid AI Slop:
Step 1: Adopt a cat (aka: be adopted by a feline overlord)
Step 2: Observe the cat (but make sure to occasionally wink-blink at them)I have a business idea:
Vintage social media.
Only media that verifiably exists on the internet before 2021 is allowed. That’s still billions of cute animal photos and videos.
EDIT:
And a sister project: RAW-only social media. Only photo/video uploaded as raw sensor data (which even phones can take now) is allowed. Metadata is stripped, and they’re post-processed by the site.
Why? RAWs are technically possible to fake, but difficult enough to deter lazy slop spam. As a bonus, they can’t be heavily edited either; they’re unprocessed, unglamourous slices of reality. And they can be served in HDR with modern compression, as a cherry on top.
…Now I just need a few billion dollars to host it, and about a trillion to survive anticompetive attacks.
When I do search for something that is not a current event I will filter for at older results to avoid any inaccurate AI answers
I was thinking about digitally signing content and you can go check the author’s public key against it or something.
Upside is that I now look a lot closer at the pictures in my feed.
As much as I vehemently despise AI, these days, I’ll take positivity where I can get it.
It is a great exercise to test your media literacy. That you can’t even trust cute cat videos and art really does suck though.
I don’t find AI cat videos half as offensive as the “I found this kitty shivering in the rain and rescued it on my hike” videos with a 3000 buck show quality Bengal.
I have begun policing myself for feelings of amazement. Seems to be the biggest thing slop tries to induce, followed closely by outrage. I know I can’t control when something makes me outraged or amazed but I definitely can choose what I signal boost
Solution is to either enjoy for what it is or stop consuming it.
It’s interesting to watch people sus this out in real time. Society as a whole will land on some sort of “solution”, and I expect it’s one most of you won’t like.
What are your thoughts? I’m starting to lean toward avoiding any fakeable content (even though I’m contradicting myself by even posting here). That can’t be worse than pre internet times right?
It’s shopped you can tell by some of the pixels also stopped being true after a few years and people just stopped caring.
We are just going though the same thing. People will just stop caring in a few years.
Or, it could be one of those videos from china which animals are forced to act.
Before ai there was photoshop. People who knew how to use it could make good fakes, but far from everyone could do that.
Then ai was created, it was fun to experiment with image generation, but it still was kind of a toy, and images was obviously generated.
Now ai became so advanced, that some ai “photos” or “artworks” require through examination to determine whether its real or fake.
If ai is so “good” right now, future generations of ai will make it nearly impossible to distinguish real pictures from generated, doesnt matter if its a photo, drawing, or other digital artwork.
AI has plateaued.
It’s certainly still improving in many areas - like coding assist, for sure. I think video generation is still improving but it takes a shit ton of resources, so it’s a bit slower. Maybe image generation has plateaued, but that could certainly be temporary. There are lots of more niche applications that are still progressing at a slower pace like I just read an article on using image processing AI in fertility clinics to better predict viability of embryos for implantation. Cool stuff that could actually improve people’s lives.
medical applications of machine learning are a pretty far cry from llms/genai
Yeah, because it’s kind of harder to get better than photorealistic.
Do we even know what is AI nowdays? websites like tiktok, are number one in the list of testing AI content.
