That’s not any different? When was the “deification” of MLK exactly? Is there a set year that happened we could look at to prove his shitty points? No, he’s just called it something vague so he can make shit up and no one can verify if he’s incorrect? Crazy.
Let me put my hazmat suit on and try to steel man Kirk’s comment. Can’t stress enough that this is not an endorsement of the guy.
Deification is a slow gradual process that happens in the culture so of course it can’t be pinpointed. The way people quote just the “I have a dream” stuff but not the criticisms of capitalism or other more “extreme” views of MLK sort of point to a legendary development where people don’t actually celebrate the real man. This is used by the ruling class (they likely helped it happen too) to prevent any meaningful change (especially considering what they did to MLK) and just apply a veneer of progress while still oppressing and sowing division in the population.
Yea like I understand if he was actually talking about those things… but I am going to guess that’s not his even close to his actual point. It’s just a way of clouding what he is saying.
Agreed. That’s why dog-whistles work so well; you can retreat to the reasonable point while also getting the unreasonable one across to those you’re really talking to.
Maybe in this instance but don’t get confused, Kirk has said many times MLK is a bad person and what he did was terrible. There’s tons more if you just go looking but just for starters he said:
“MLK was awful. OK? He’s not a good person. He said one good thing he actually didn’t believe. Go research MLK, you should go research him.”
When asked if it was true that when he was younger, he used to describe MLK as a hero and a civil rights icon, he responded simply:
“That’s true, and I used to be wrong.”
Regarding the Civil Rights Act that MLK famously pushed so hard for:
“We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the mid-1960s.”
Again this is just a bit. Go digging and you’ll find much much more.
as much as I hate him, he’s not blaming MLK Jr, he’s blaming the DEIFICATION of MLK Jr.
He’s probably still wrong, because it’s fucking kirk, but be mad at the correct thing
That’s a rhetorical game so he can disparage MLK’s ideas and then say, “I didn’t say I hate MLK.”
fair
That’s not any different? When was the “deification” of MLK exactly? Is there a set year that happened we could look at to prove his shitty points? No, he’s just called it something vague so he can make shit up and no one can verify if he’s incorrect? Crazy.
Let me put my hazmat suit on and try to steel man Kirk’s comment. Can’t stress enough that this is not an endorsement of the guy.
Deification is a slow gradual process that happens in the culture so of course it can’t be pinpointed. The way people quote just the “I have a dream” stuff but not the criticisms of capitalism or other more “extreme” views of MLK sort of point to a legendary development where people don’t actually celebrate the real man. This is used by the ruling class (they likely helped it happen too) to prevent any meaningful change (especially considering what they did to MLK) and just apply a veneer of progress while still oppressing and sowing division in the population.
thanks for the support
Yea like I understand if he was actually talking about those things… but I am going to guess that’s not his even close to his actual point. It’s just a way of clouding what he is saying.
Agreed. That’s why dog-whistles work so well; you can retreat to the reasonable point while also getting the unreasonable one across to those you’re really talking to.
Maybe in this instance but don’t get confused, Kirk has said many times MLK is a bad person and what he did was terrible. There’s tons more if you just go looking but just for starters he said:
When asked if it was true that when he was younger, he used to describe MLK as a hero and a civil rights icon, he responded simply:
Regarding the Civil Rights Act that MLK famously pushed so hard for:
Again this is just a bit. Go digging and you’ll find much much more.
makes sense, Kirk was a POS and is looking up at us from hell right now. Good riddance.
Not the bombing of their neighborhoods and black wall street?
Maybe when you prevent an entire group of people from participating in commerce and economic gain their only alternative are handouts?