• pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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    22 hours ago

    Them freezing that order

    The ICE agents’ use of gas and chemical spray on protesters came shortly after the 8th Circuit US Court of Appeals froze an earlier ruling from US District Judge Katherine Menendez that had barred federal agents from using such forms of force on peaceful protesters.

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      22 hours ago

      There is literally no reason to be peaceful anymore. There is no reason to not be kitted the fuck out when you go to “protest” anymore. There is no reason we shouldn’t just fuckin turn safeties off imo.

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        21 hours ago

        No. They want to have an excuse to declare martial law and start shooting randomly. Leave it to Minnesota, they’re handling it right.

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          This is some lib shit. Fuck that noise.

          If ICE keeps terrorizing communities, communities of people’s loved one, they have every right to protest that.

          I don’t know if you know this, but if ICE continue to do this shit (and they will), the the inevitable outcome is a civil war.

          This will not get better in the next year or 3 years before the next elections. It will get worse. And you’re telling people to just sit through the pain and suffering of this Admin, as if that will prevent more pain and suffering from coming.

          Tim Walz should have used the MN National Guard to defend the People of Minnesota. Ever since he was cucked by Kamala Harris after the 2024 DNC, she’s shone himself to be a limp dick that willingly bends over to lick the boot of the fascists.

          If Tim won’t protect people, they’ll do it themselves. And they’re right to.

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            Before Minnesota we barely moved public opinion, since nonviolent resistance started here, public opinion has shifted sharply. We are winning. The country is on our side. The second people take up arms the perception changes instantly. Don’t be fooled by your own anger.

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          They want to have an excuse to declare martial law and start shooting randomly

          This shit drives me absolutely insane.

          They don’t need an excuse

          They’re going to do it anyway, so people need to fucking defend themselves however they can. Stop spouting this horseshit

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            13 hours ago

            This is what I’m fucking saying! They’re not pulling any punches so why the fuck are we?!

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          21 hours ago

          I understand that but imo this is not going to end well, let alone peacefully.

          I just don’t see this administration/dictatorship conceding to anything just because production might have slowed down for a little bit. They’re in too deep now; they can’t just walk things back and go “whoops, sorry! How about we only prosecute a tiny fraction of agents that actually committed acts of force/violence to placate the masses” and it all cycles back around. They’re either going to get what they want or we’re going to have to stop them from taking it over our cold lifeless bodies.

          Tell me I’m exaggerating.

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            20 hours ago

            Organized citizenry capable of pulling off general strikes could exact concessions time and again as they are willing to go on general strike. Nothing would harm them more than all business in the country shutting down for an extended period of time.

            It would also show solidarity to the armed forces and security services that they plan on using to crush 1st amendment protected activity under false pretexts.

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            21 hours ago

            They’re in too deep now; they can’t just walk things back and go “whoops, sorry!

            They’ll do that in a heartbeat. In fact, they do it alllll the fucking time. LA is a perfect example and relates to this. They didn’t have anyone on their side so they picked a new target.

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        21 hours ago

        I can’t say what I’d like to, so I’ll just say something about how if they’re shooting us and using banned gas grenades on us, we should be responding in kind.

        The only language these fucks understand is violence, and it will take a significantly larger amount of it visited upon them for a longer amount of time for the message to become clear. WE WILL NOT TOLERATE INTOLERANCE.