• ameancow@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    They’re a .ml user, you’re not going to get much in the way of a nuanced and intelligent reply focused on solutions.

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      12 hours ago

      Yeah I get it, but I just grow tired of the argument – and it doesn’t solely come from .ml users but is broadly-speaking a tiring recurrent Internet argument – that nothing ever changes and that everything has always been like this even when it obviously and provably has not.

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        10 hours ago

        I mean the government was hiring Pinkertons to do drive-bys on the camps of mostly-white miners. White privilege is important in America, but if it’s a showdown between that and the interests of capital, capital will win every time.

        Trump also ordered the extrajudicial execution of a white man, Michael Reinoehl, in his first term. I have no idea why no one ever talks about that.

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          Trump also ordered the extrajudicial execution of a white man, Michael Reinoehl, in his first term. I have no idea why no one ever talks about that.

          Because we continue to pretend that the police and military always act lawfully, unless there’s incontrovertible evidence to the contrary.

          Even with that the news media continues to couch the video of the murders of Good and Pretti as “appearing to show” things and provides ample room on their platforms for people to lie and copagandize the American public.

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            10 hours ago

            I mean yeah, agreed of course, but I don’t even see if frequently mentioned by people who are aware of what’s really going on.

            Guess there have been a lot of corpses produced by America in recent decades and… for its entire existence before then too. Too much trauma to keep up with all of it I guess. Remember when Boeing melted a guy’s lungs and nothing happened? Land of the free, rock flag and eagle.

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        12 hours ago

        Oh absolutely, the “nothing ever happens” pool of nihilistic, cynical young turds are a huge non-movement-movement. I am not sure what satisfaction people get from discouraging change to systems that they hate, the only thing I can imagine is it’s some form of self-hatred being projected outward.

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          11 hours ago

          What is interesting is at its root, it’s basically a reactionary argument.

          (From Hirschman’s “The Rhetoric of Reaction” pg. 167) http://pombo.free.fr/hirschman91.pdf

          Reactionary: The contemplated action attempts to change permanent structural characteristics (“laws”) of the social order; it is therefore bound to be wholly ineffective, futile.

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            9 hours ago

            I’ll tuck this away to read before bed, I absolutely believe most of our societal problems come from a segment of the population who have a different mental state for dealing with feelings, IE: reactionary feelings dictating what is going on in their head-narratives, and the people who exploit this by supplying these people a narrative to explain their reactions.