Is a great thing, I hope they do this (though if they do follow through I suspect trump will order them to stop)
Would unfortunately be a civil war thing - it’s not open conflict, but it would require the subversion of federal systems (the emergency warning systems) to actively sabotage federal troops. I don’t know about the free speech rights, but generally speaking the military has sharp restrictions on what counts as free speech.
Another serious question (and setting aside the question of legality because who fuckin’ cares at this point), what resources should the state put out to support this? Having worked with several state governments, there’s not really “spare cash” floating around to enable this kind of unbelievable expenditure, so it’s somewhat limited to an eviction freeze (which is almost entirely out of the state’s control)
Not really a national guard thing but fair enough. I’ve seen some limited vids from there but most of what I’ve seen was one violent interaction then the police fled, was there more than that? I’ve seen people say they came back that evening but I can’t find a good source for that.
I too see 1. as the unambiguous thing to do, follow ICE, record everything. Be a visible deterrent. I don’t think Trump has the right to order them to stop and I don’t think they are inclined to listen to Trump over the interests of their own community.
Though being around the question is what is the guard response to an event like the Pretti shooting would be if they were there documenting things… Being in that scenario with guardsmen might be impossible to both avoid conflict and provide an acceptable response. Guess we would have to hope that the inherent risk of escalation tempers the ICE people, but they haven’t exactly shown themselves to have that sort of restraint…
Unfortunately the national guard was federalized, so Trump is their direct commander and has every right to order them to stop doing things like recording other groups. I think the hope is that the Guard presence would outright prevent another execution, I don’t know how accurate that hope is but it’s a far better option than we have right now.
Is a great thing, I hope they do this (though if they do follow through I suspect trump will order them to stop)
Would unfortunately be a civil war thing - it’s not open conflict, but it would require the subversion of federal systems (the emergency warning systems) to actively sabotage federal troops. I don’t know about the free speech rights, but generally speaking the military has sharp restrictions on what counts as free speech.
He was killed two days ago and the court hearing to attempt to ensure BCA has access to the site is ongoing as I write this so hopefully there will be progress soon!
Another serious question (and setting aside the question of legality because who fuckin’ cares at this point), what resources should the state put out to support this? Having worked with several state governments, there’s not really “spare cash” floating around to enable this kind of unbelievable expenditure, so it’s somewhat limited to an eviction freeze (which is almost entirely out of the state’s control)
Not really a national guard thing but fair enough. I’ve seen some limited vids from there but most of what I’ve seen was one violent interaction then the police fled, was there more than that? I’ve seen people say they came back that evening but I can’t find a good source for that.
I too see 1. as the unambiguous thing to do, follow ICE, record everything. Be a visible deterrent. I don’t think Trump has the right to order them to stop and I don’t think they are inclined to listen to Trump over the interests of their own community.
Though being around the question is what is the guard response to an event like the Pretti shooting would be if they were there documenting things… Being in that scenario with guardsmen might be impossible to both avoid conflict and provide an acceptable response. Guess we would have to hope that the inherent risk of escalation tempers the ICE people, but they haven’t exactly shown themselves to have that sort of restraint…
Unfortunately the national guard was federalized, so Trump is their direct commander and has every right to order them to stop doing things like recording other groups. I think the hope is that the Guard presence would outright prevent another execution, I don’t know how accurate that hope is but it’s a far better option than we have right now.