Example: As far as sports go, I’m in the 3rd mentioned category, I don’t give a shit which side wins, and I don’t even bother watching.
I also don’t care who wins at sports. I’m only planning to watch the Superbowl to spite the nazis by supporting Bad Bunny
Pretty good showerthought, NGL. And yes, likewise about sports teams, what meaningful connection do I have with these people? Lol. I’d get it if your brother played for the team, or you had money on them winning, but if not the outcome is just inconsequential, right?
But then you see all these people in love with their preferred teams, crying even, and I’m like “why?”, and if this is how you feel about some strangers good at moving a ball, did you have a heart attack from happiness when you got your first kiss? Did you have to be resuscitated when you learned your wife was pregnant? Usually, from what I’ve seen, they didn’t, but they did have all these feelings for these random groups of people. 🤷
Jerry Seinfeld had a bit where he says it makes no sense to root for a sports team because the players change, the strategies change, everything changes. All you’re rooting for is the uniform. And if a guy changes teams, then you liked him on one team but suddenly don’t like him cause he’s wearing a different shirt. I don’t know how accurate that assessment is because I don’t care about sports
I don’t get the fascination with sports either, but I get emotional about the stories in video games. I imagine someone who loves sports but doesn’t care for video games might view my tears over pixels as pathetic. My outrage at imginary injustice from a judgemental npc as ridiculous.
I have all these feelings for random collections of pixels on a screen. They can have their feelings for random groups of people.
I have to stop myself from mocking my brother in law for yelling at his TV on apparently bad plays, because I definitely have yelled at my screen before over a death, or plot twist.
Ehhh, I think it’s different, because whether it’s pixels or ink on paper, it’s an exploration of ideas, the representation of a situation in which you empathise with the characters and put yourself in their shoes, understanding why they reacted the way they did and going through their ups and downs together in your imagination. It has substance, something to actually feel about. Sports are more like betting, just circumstantial at its core, feeling the victories and losses strongly just for different reasons. Sports and having a favourite team and going to the stadium and feeling like you’re part of something bigger than yourself (even if it’s utterly meaningless, you’re not anti ICE vigilante patrols or socialist activists, lol) gives them more emotional value than betting though, ofc. And Persona 3 is one of those games, for instance 🥲. Play it if you haven’t!
And I’m not saying you should bully people for being simple and having passion for things that have no depth, of course not, let them be in peace. What I am saying is that the difference is obvious, and it is a meaningless thing one shouldn’t feel too strongly about (specially because I know they don’t feel strongly for things they should!).
In my world, you never bully people.
As far as my shoes, my YouTube catchphrase is…
“If you don’t like my shoes, then don’t roll in my feet”
https://youtube.com/watch?v=DdHGMZe5nFo
Yes that’s me. Let’s all have a happy new year…
That’s some talented BMXing! 👍
And those that are not in full support of a cause, neither fully opposed to it; but would rather see a more nuanced approach to the cause. As for the sport example: I initially don’t care for sports either; however have learned to appreciate some sports, because I took the time to understand their intricacies.
Oh I do appreciate some sports, more particularly single player sports where the only one you’re really challenging is yourself. I happen to enjoy BMX flatland, and have lots of respect for anyone that can participate, regardless of their skill level.
Other examples might be like tree or rock climbing, parkour, even ballet dancing. But when it comes to team sports, one team against another, I just don’t get it. But it’s cool, I get that many people enjoy watching team sports and all, but I don’t see the joy unless you’re actually participating, not just a mere spectator.
Anyways, weird side note, ‘nuanced’ isn’t exactly part of my regular vocabulary, so forgive my ignorance as I had to look it up. I gathered the general definition to an extent, but what the hell does that have to do with peanuts?
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/nuanced
Edit: Is AI hallucinating the freaking Cambridge Dictionary?
In team sports, I suspect the dynamics between different players, and their inventiveness to outperform the opposing team, is what creates an interesting match; it’s quite strategic really. Team sports I enjoy most are: ice hockey (got to love the obnoxious truck horns and organ music haha), curling (the weird sport with the brooms: which affect the trajectory and placement quite a bit), doubles tennis (especially when front players duel intensively and the back players providing support).
If Alice argues all should be black, and Bob argues all should be white, Carol may add further context to the argument: creating a grey area if you will. In this case: Alice could argue all team sports suck, Bob could argue all team sports are great, and Carol may argue things are bit more “nuanced” than that: taking into consideration, both her interest in curling and her aversion to narcissistic soccer players, dropping themselves to the floor; like every 10 minutes.
There are those that don’t understand a cause and yet oppose changed to status quo.
Anti-CCP?
Mom: “The nationalists are gonna attack you” “Are you trying to get us banned from going back to China / arrested in China?”
Anti-trump?
Mom: “The fbi is gonna knock on our door and I will disown you”
Nationalists will attack anyone who doesn’t hold their exact narrow worldview from their narrowly defined area, regardless of which nationality they hold.
American nationalists are just called “republicans” (although plenty of democrats could be considered nationalists, it’s a bit of a “not all squares/rectangles” situation)
My parents are definitely in the “resist status-quo change” group, but I would argue they do understand “the cause” at least when it comes to American politics. They’re vocally against fascism in private, but any sort of resistance is illegal and therefore wrong. And it’s too bad these politicians are doing fascism, because they’re supposed to be good God-fearing types who just want abortion to stop.
Without an ounce of thought behind it, my mother will say medically necessary abortions should be allowed, and vote for someone who loudly tells everyone they won’t allow any at all. Will say ICE shouldn’t be executing people, but will happily support funding for them. Doesn’t like that the US keeps putting its military boot into other countries’ doors, but still says “support our troops”
