That’s good news
I wonder, would these users still use PieFed if they have seen its codebase? Maybe it can be one day but right now it’s 100% not production-grade software. Nonsensical hardcoded bans and blocks everywhere. >1000 lines of Python in a single file. Uses regex to parse HTML. The list goes on…
uses regex to parse HTML
I see we are having fun these places!
If the code is bad, you realise only coders would notice it from reading that?
And most people are not coders. What hardcoded bans are you referring to here? The 4chan one that can be disabled?
If the code is bad, you realise only coders would notice it from reading that?
That’s what makes it particularly sad. The people who didn’t read the code have no idea what they’re in for.
What hardcoded bans are you referring to here? The 4chan one that can be disabled?
How about this one? ‘enoughmuskspam’, ‘political_weirdos’, ‘piracy’, ‘memes’ are hardcoded banned. 196 used to be banned to but they removed it from the “bad list”.
Also “can be disabled” does not excuse hardcoded filtering. If they’re serious they could implement a config system in an hour.
What are they in for? The site seems to work fine from a user perspective.
That is from an auto-federation system for instances to bulk add new comms across instances. Any community can still be manually added. And I think most of those may have been removed now a few weeks ago. I can literally access enoughmuskspam@lemmy.world from piefed.social and all those other terms.
All new admins need to do to change things is to untick boxes.
What are they in for? The site seems to work fine from a user perspective.
Fox News would seem like a perfectly fine source of news if you get all your news from Fox News, wouldn’t you agree?
Any community can still be manually added.
And you can still manually get any news you want from other channels, Fox News just won’t show them.
(I am not saying PieFed is as bad as Fox News, just trying to make an analogy to show that something that “seems to work fine” can be pretty bad for the users nonetheless)
BTW,
!enoughmuskspam@lemmy.world(with the exclamation mark up front) to correctly refer to communities. Without the ! that’s an email address.I don’t get this comparison. You are scrutinising the code here as if people coming here without knowledge of how awful it apparently is will apparently be in for a rough ride. That the code excludes communities with certain keywords from being automatically added by the mass federation tool used only by instance owners (many of which have been removed now - as much of it was a copy and paste job from communities designated to shed content after 6 months) doesn’t actually impact the user experience just using the site.
To me, the sloppy codebase means I wouldn’t want to selfhost it. And the presence of hardcoded filtering of things the devs dislike (even if it can be manually worked around) is for me a very good indicator that more shenanigans will come along the line.
If you have no problems with what I mentioned then I don’t think we have much in common ground to argue on. You can enjoy PieFed and I will continue to enjoy Lemmy.
I just want people to be informed about these things that I find highly problematic before they decide to use or selfhost PieFed.
New users joining from Reddit aren’t dealing with self-hosting - they’re just using it. I will also add I have seen a lot of praise for how easy it is to host piefed from other instance owners.
Can you show me Reddits code?
The version from 10 years ago, yeah. It’s here https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit.
There’s a modern and production-ready open source alternative. It’s called Lemmy. You can find the source here https://github.com/lemmynet/lemmy
Sadly refactoring is frowned upon in a lot of places as it takes away from adding new stuff, especially when necessary to prevent the code from getting worse
Is there any particular reason for this?
I‘m coming from an promotion in r/buyfromEU
Some promotional posts were made on Reddit in the right comms, although none of them specifically exploded - albeit one was made also in r/buyCanadian and it seemed to surge.
I come specifically from this.
I was intrigued and I had never heard of the fediverse before. The rabbit hole brought me here :)
cant be reddit bans, they have largely laid off the massive bans. although i have heard they upped thier methods of detecting would be ban evasion methods.
Reddit also upped the enshittification but i cant remember why.
its also too easy to get banned. new accounts and old inactive accounts becoming suddenly active are highly likely to get banned.
Ipo
That was the big one, but there was something else smaller last year.
What?
There was something else that happened last autumn/winter that made it even shittier. Cant remember any info and its doing my head in.
One of my friends finally joined for two reasons. First he was disgusted by the Reddit ICE ads, and second he realized his Reddit feed was half shit he doesn’t subscribe to.
That’s actually also the reason I am here, lol. Reddit feed. has gone down the drain, although I don’t get Ice ads. I ain’t American.
Everyone knows this. This is also just piefed.social.
Linking so people see it.
Isn’t that something possible in any piefed spot not just the instance of the dev?
Yes. So? Piefed.ca is receiving the bump here. Other instances have turned it off.
You know Rimu made a thread in !piefed_meta@piefed.social so you can ask questions or express concerns.
Because it’s a piefed feature set.
Based on rimus responses here and elsewhere they do not seem interested in feedback.
Even in their comment linking to a thread saying they welcome it, they were attacking someone providing it
Where do you see that in the thread?
Here = comm
And https://lemmy.world/comment/21861362 which leads to
https://piefed.social/comment/9670365
Where both calls anyone but them looking at the code amateurs and can’t understand people wouldn’t provide feedback if thought bad things in code were purposely done as so many projects will do that
There’s no need to listen to rumors and amateur speculation when we’re right here and happy to help. Come on in, the water’s fine!
This comment was a month ago, and he was aware of people heavily slamming his project and showing no interest at all in actually sharing it to him.
He isn’t specifically “calling out” anyone directly. All he says here is that the stuff people are complaining about here have been on piefed and not hidden since day zero.
That was an interesting read.
Seems like piefed should fix a lot of that. For some of it, at least make it configurable and not hard coded. But that blocked user stuff seems like a real problem.
Most of it is configurable and off by default. But the haters don’t mention that.
Yeah I’m reading that in other replies. Still you would put this in configs, for which you could have templates that come with certain defaults populated, rather than hard coding like this.
I’m doing this because I love doing it. Often that means the boring bits like documentation or config or general finesse get left out. I’m trying to paint with broad strokes in the hope that when others see what I’m trying to do they’ll join in and fill in the details.
Yeah no worries. I’m happy with any effort that brings more people to the fediverse. My comments were honest and constructive criticism. Wasn’t meant to offend. Keep up the good work.
Good
Been looking to migrate off .ml, can y’all sell me on switching to piefed?
Piefed has so many issues. It’s great at adding new features, but it’s so bad at free speech.
See this: https://lemmy.ml/comment/23662293
Deal breaker for me. Although Lemmy is not all that tolerant of dissenting views either I hear.
just like on reddit if you are trolling, issuing propaganda, and ignoring community rules you will get banned surely anywhere else, obviously if your being offensive too.
don’t forget, being sexually harassed by a mod and then warning people about the mod will get you banned too
In my experience reddit administration moderates dishonestly, violating posts not against the rules because of subjects like Israel,. Moderators there are more than you can shake a stick at they run the gamut.
But the administration is quite dishonest, and will become more and more so.
A bunch of tankies whining around anti-spam/bot, anti-AI and defederating from tankie instances. I see no problem here.
Been looking to migrate off .ml,
Why out if curiosity?
Congrats!
Is this new users or users switching from Lemmy ?
Reddit adverts, so many new users
Is some new drama going on over there lately?
No, it just got advertised by some users from here and managed to cut through.
I’ve been on the microblogging side of the fediverse for some time (the misskey style forks), but really started to miss forum style discussion. 8 joined Lemmy and realized that a huge portion of comments simply weren’t displaying on that instance, so I moved to Piefed and am really happy with it so far. There’s a lot of features that I like.
Welcome!
Thanks :)
Okay? It’s still a massive surge of new users relative to older growth.
Which is not useful if those users are people who try out the platform and then abandon it, or worst bots for state actors.
Should we just not celebrate any growth at all?
Donating is great, sure, and they’re probably more likely to stick around if they paid, but just because someone isn’t donating doesn’t mean they won’t be active in the comments or by making posts. Not to mention they might spread the word to friends, some of whom might donate.
