Defection is genuinely one of the greatest tools resistance movements have, especially over a period of time. And before you assume anything about me, I fucking hate fascists and I am not chomping at the bit to welcome in these thugs, but just historically speaking, defection is a huge asset for resistance.
There’s the acute situation and the chronic one. The acute one needs action now. You also need to keep an eye on the long term goals.
It’s a common thing that’s been discovered with extremist groups. A good number of their members get in before it becomes extreme. By the time they realise, too much of their identity is tied up with the group. They get drawn deeper and deeper. This makes getting out both emotionally and practically costly.
Giving a release valve to remove these people from the group is emotionally unpleasant, but extremely useful for collapsing the group.
Also, those same people are often in the best position to help with deprogramming other members.
I’m not saying to let them walk Scot free, but you need to leave some way out. Unless you are willing to stand and systematically gun down them to a man (bare in mind, they will be firing back).
With the original ones? Shoot em. With these ones? Depends which variant but helping them skeeve out of paying back their “bonus” would probably do something.
For context that “bonus” they were given apon signing up for ICE was really a white elephant. If they leave before a certain timescale they have to pay it back, which would explain the utterly shit moral they have since plenty of them prolly wanted a quick paycheck and a bit of power and are now in way too deep.
We gave them a way out already. They’ve already drawn a line in the sand.
Fuck every last one of them and fuck this limp-wristed response to the extreme state violence we have witnessed.
Defection is genuinely one of the greatest tools resistance movements have, especially over a period of time. And before you assume anything about me, I fucking hate fascists and I am not chomping at the bit to welcome in these thugs, but just historically speaking, defection is a huge asset for resistance.
There’s the acute situation and the chronic one. The acute one needs action now. You also need to keep an eye on the long term goals.
It’s a common thing that’s been discovered with extremist groups. A good number of their members get in before it becomes extreme. By the time they realise, too much of their identity is tied up with the group. They get drawn deeper and deeper. This makes getting out both emotionally and practically costly.
Giving a release valve to remove these people from the group is emotionally unpleasant, but extremely useful for collapsing the group.
Also, those same people are often in the best position to help with deprogramming other members.
I’m not saying to let them walk Scot free, but you need to leave some way out. Unless you are willing to stand and systematically gun down them to a man (bare in mind, they will be firing back).
Theoretically, how does one deprogram Nazi’s funded by the state?
With the original ones? Shoot em. With these ones? Depends which variant but helping them skeeve out of paying back their “bonus” would probably do something.
For context that “bonus” they were given apon signing up for ICE was really a white elephant. If they leave before a certain timescale they have to pay it back, which would explain the utterly shit moral they have since plenty of them prolly wanted a quick paycheck and a bit of power and are now in way too deep.
I think the Germans might have some ideas to draw from. Or at least what doesn’t work as well as you might think.