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A British woman was shot dead by her father last year after the pair had argued about President Donald Trump earlier that day. Lucy Harrison, 23, was fatally shot on Jan. 10, 2025 while visiting her father, Kris Harrison, in suburban Dallas at his home in Prosper, Texas. Harrison moved to the U.S. when Lucy was a child.
Prosper police originally investigated her death as a possible case of manslaughter, but a criminal case in Texas was not brought after a grand jury in Collin County opted not to indict him. Her death is being investigated in Cheshire Coroner’s Court in England.
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Forget the whole Trump angle that might be motive. Why wasn’t he at least charged with manslaughter? It seems outrageous that he could claim accidental and get away with it.
you missed the part where women aren’t people in Texas. women are property. he owned his daughter because she was his daughter. and in America, you can do whatever you want with your property.
Not if every tech company in the country has anything to say about that
Oh no. Your devices aren’t your property like your women are. You bought access to Apple’s iPhone.
“My daughter, who was always mad about my guns, agreed to come see my new gun. I don’t know how it accidentally shot her in the head.”
That a grand jury in TX didn’t move on this is a real indictment of the citizens of that state. But we already knew what sort of people live there and are proud of their politics.
I mean, juries are chosen in part by the defense. You can’t treat them as a fair sampling of a population. You have to visit a place, learn its history, get to know people who have spent their lives there, and ask them their genuine opinion. Only then can you truly know whether Texas is a spiritually cruel, intellectually bereft, and socially monstrous place.
Luckily, I can confirm this for you.
“The violent left!”
Huh? Is that “AII” or “All” or what?
He “accidentally” did the whole murder. Oops!
(It’s a juxtaposition of a fun innocent mistake with the seriousness of deliberate homicide, with the implication that it was in fact, not a mistake.)
On the morning of the shooting, at her father’s four-bedroom, $900,000 home, Littler said Lucy had asked her father, “How would you feel if I was the girl in that situation and I’d been sexually assaulted?” while they were discussing Trump.
Kris responded that he had two other daughters living in their home, so it would not upset him very much.
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FAMILY VALUES!
They only have a problem with “honor killings” when they’re done by brown people.
These people view their children as property, and believe “I brought you into this world and I can take you out of it” at literal face value.
Degenerates like him belong on a cross.
Nah, he doesn’t deserve to be a martyr.
That’s why you don’t stop with him.
Nice name XD
So this Kris guy is an immigrant huh?
A violent immigrant
When the United Kingdom sends its people, they’re not sending their best…
I mean, they did send over their religious extremists, slavers, and prisoners, before moving on to other colonies. And the US has never recovered.
America** has never recovered
FTFY
The world has never recovered
FTFTFY
“Everything was fine, then the British showed up”
“Well shit. Pack it up folks, they brought a flag.”
Check m8
“I didn’t say ‘checkmate,’ I said ‘check, mate.’”
Now replace British by Muslim and trump by Allah (or Black and Obama), and watch right wing media explaining how “these people” are dangerous and not compatible with “our values”.
Our values
It is within their value framework, just not the correct belligerent and leader
Muslim woman shot dead after arguing about Donald Allah. Black woman shot dead after arguing about Donald Obama.
Unfortunately in their minds, like the police and court, they’d still think the father was faultless AND ignore/miss that comparisons completely
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Yeah turd, about that… I’m first nation, so you pack your shit and you and your insecure white male club go milk cows in England, or something. Cunt.
donald tRump is a barely closeted gay man, and you fantasize about him jacking your half hard shmuck in his face to the beat of YMCA. The men you idolize from harder times would kill your soft doughy ass on sight for your boots, and you would probably thank them for it. Go pick turnips and feed yourself to the hogs.
Typical maga loser. So sorry for the woman, standing up to fundamentalist extremists in her own family.
When he gets snapped out of his cult induced mind, he’s in for a hell of a time realising that he killed his own daughter in the name of a pedophile rapist.
Statments like this are so baffling because I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic.
It might just be my Australian English.
I doubt it. I’m a US citizen and speak the US version of English. I understood your meaning, but it sounds like you think he will ever realize he did something wrong.
This man, by his own admission, took his daughter into his bedroom to “try to reconcile with her,” and somehow in the next 15 minutes his pistol, which was in his bedroom not a common room of his, presumably ranch/rambler style home, appeared in his hand. At some point the Glock handgun that he owned “went off,” on its own accord, as he claims he didn’t have his finger on the trigger. If this gun were not a Glock, I might believe that. Glocks don’t have hair triggers. You have to squeeze with your entire hand to pull the trigger on a Glock, and they don’t go off accidentally.
Beyond all of that, no responsible gun owner has their guns loaded at all times. I grew up all over but spent a lot of time in IN, KY, PA, and OH. I met a LOT of militia members thanks to my friend’s parents. These people keep guns. They also may have some ammo. The guns and the ammo aren’t laying around combined, they aren’t even in the same safe.
This man knowingly committed premeditated murder on his daughter by even touching his gun while he was inebriated. The fact that he got away with it is just an indication of how broken our punishment system is.
He’s NEVER going to “snap out” of it. He is in the worst echo chamber there is to claim he was justified.
Edit: I’m a US citizen, a Life Scout, the son and grandson of multiple US Veterans, and US Navy Veteran, myself. I’m familiar with my guns. Heck, I own a small arsenal, but it is in Indiana in my parent’s land, and I live in California. I would need a serious reason to go dig up Matrix levels of weaponry. My crossbows are more than I need, and unlikely to be misused, as most people wouldn’t be able to even cock the bow or load the bolt.
This is exactly correct. There is very little chance that this wasn’t intentional, premeditated murder. This guy intentionally killed his daughter, he planned it, I believe he brought her into the room for that purpose and he knew what he was going to do.
Non-Americans seem to be really struggling to understand our country. They keep expecting us to be able to “do something” about Trump. They’re acting like he’s a normal president that we willingly elected. Half of them are expecting American peasents to defeat our military using only muskets, and the other half expects the GOP to be moved by strongly worded letters. Whenever something like this happens in America, whenever a father kills a daughter in cold blood due to some honor-related reason, there are always comments from foreigners talking about “he’s gonna feel bad when he realizes he commited murder.” You guys, he knows he committed murder. It was premeditated murder.
Murdered his own daughter for a person who fundamentally hates him.
The “I don’t know how the gun went off” thing is bullshit. Even if it was accidental, which it wasn’t, then she’s still dead because of his actions.
There is no such thing as an “accidental discharge” when guns are involved.
Only “negligent discharges”
This, I always get slammed for it in gun communities but I think Glock convincing everyone that pistols don’t need safeties (and later that safeties are a liability) is the single most dangerous action in the gun community in my lifetime. Safeties aren’t there to keep the gun from firing on its own, that’s just any modern gun that doesn’t malfunction, they exist as a final measure against human error.
If you buy a gun without a safety and allow anything to touch the trigger when it’s pointed at something you are not fully comfortable with shooting, you are negligent.
Trump supporters are too emotional to own weapons.
I bet I can guess what side of the issue Dad was on.
trump derangement syndrome strikes again. this mental disorder has infiltrated almost all levels of government including ICE and has killed 2 US citizens. and now another one. when will there be a cure of this disorder.
Way the fuck more than 2. You may not have seen the other ≈500 or so, because those deaths weren’t caught on camera, but since ICE was founded in 2003, around 500 people have died in ICE custody. In the last year that has skyrocketed to around or over 60 people dying in a single year (2025). Previously the high point, even under the first Drumpf administration was only around 30-32 people in a year.
In 2025 60 people died in ICE custody. In 2026 they have gunned down, directly murdering in public as opposed to in custody, 2 people before they took them into custody, THAT WE KNOW OF.
Who the fuck knows what they are doing outside of camera range. That’s like 99% of US territory, though admittedly ≈80% of the population lives in the scanscapes of the cities and towns.
Yup. That young woman who had a seizure, was (supposedly) taken to hospital, then hasn’t been heard from since got to me. All of it is tragic and horrible, but of the recent cases, that one stands out for me, cause you just know she’s dead. And they won’t even fucking give the family any closure.
And that’s just what they are telling us. There is no federal law that enforces local and state law enforcement to divulge the amount of times they fire their weapons, much less how many people die in custody.
ICE may have already killed thousands last year. There are over 1,000 people that no one can account for that were supposed to be in Alligator Alcatraz. Their families and lawyers cannot find them. ICE claims not to know their whereabouts.
ICE may have already killed thousands last year.
ICE has quite likely already killed thousands last year, you mean. God it fucking sucks just typing that…
I’m hoping for the horrible snowball chance in hell that they misplaced them by deporting them illegally, or just literally losing them en route somewhere.
I realize that’s not fucking likely, but I live closest to their Otay Mesa facility, and am wondering why an older veteran than I hasn’t taken a killdozer to that particular concentration camp.
I should pay attention to usernames a bit more, lol.
I can tell you why you haven’t, though, cause it’s the same reason from our other thread: compassion.
But, I feel pretty safe saying we’re in agreement!
don’t do that. calling it anything other than a cult only provides them with more fuel to burn in their “us vs them” hate machine.
yes, they are deranged. yes, they are psychotic. yes, they are a danger to the general population. no, it’s not a syndrome. it’s a lack of education that empowers domestic terrorists to manipulate and brainwash people susceptible to suggestion, IE a “cult”.
They don’t see themselves as a cult. You calling them a cult just allows them to ignore everything else you have to say. You have to meet them with their own doublespeak if you want to break the cultish brainwashing, and force them to question themselves.
Antagonistic conversion will only entrench their beliefs. The way you have to deradicalize them is to earnestly question things until they can no longer deny the hypocrisy and doublethink/ doublespeak.
Remember who you were when you were 2 years old, and “why” was the greatest question in the world, but force them to provide receipts. Make them explain the joke that you “innocently” don’t understand. Make them say the quiet parts out loud, because you “don’t understand.” Either they will deradicalize themselves, or they will stop talking to you permanently.
“Why is that funny?,” and “You aren’t being the neighbor that Fred Rogers knew you could be,” are effectively a social chemical (gas) weapon and a social nuclear weapon, respectively, when deployed correctly in the US. They must be deployed with an innocent and loving tone.
Follow this up with, “No. I need to understand, you’re supposed to teach me to be a good person. Explain this please.” Or something similar, and you can literally watch people deprogramming themselves.
“The Dragon is a bad thing! The Dragon ate my grandma!” Resonates with everyone, even those that haven’t heard it yet.
Eh, no.
There is only one thing that gives any chance - compassion. And that’s got a snowball’s chances in surviving hell. But there is nothing else but compassion that’ll give you any chance at all.
They don’t see themselves as a cult.
people in cults never do.
You calling them a cult just allows them to ignore everything else you have to say.
people in cults usually do.
You have to meet them with their own doublespeak if you want to break the cultish brainwashing, and force them to question themselves.
no I don’t. breaking programming requires one of two things. force or logic. logic won’t work with this cult, and force is unscalable without collaterall damage.
Antagonistic conversion will only entrench their beliefs.
correct, which is why you shouldn’t ever try to “double speak” them.
The way you have to deradicalize them is to earnestly question things until they can no longer deny the hypocrisy and doublethink/ doublespeak.
as I said, logic won’t work with this cult.
I’m not even going to finish reading your comment because you clearly have a lack of experience or understanding of how programming and cults work. this is especially true since many of the members of this cult have had their programming fortified over the last 20 years. put simply, they are entrenched and the only thing that may work is a shock to their system. even that though, is unlikely to work.
How many have you successfully reached? I’ve been deprogramming them for decades. I know of at least 6 people that I successfully deradicalized this way in the last 2 decades, and as many as 18 over the last 4.
For one person that isn’t exactly nothing. These people all exist in The Bible Belt, aka Trump Country, and I have lived in California for the last decade.
Your technique is irrelevant. That you had the compassion to stick with it is what matters.
I’m not trying to be an ass. Really. But to think that you have a universal technique to deprogram anyone is dangerously naive.
Nah, you’re probably correct on your assessment about having the stubbornness needed. I was just mainly arguing that logic won’t work with people that didn’t logic themselves into their beliefs on the first place.
As I thought. Your methods have resulted in 0 positive results.
My methods have resulted in the better part of 2 dozen positive results. Not a great percentage, but better than 0. Emotions work much better than logic with these people, despite my objections to that.
The definition of insanity is trying the same failed methods over and over expecting different results.
I wonder if we can scale those methods up with AI, perhaps?
In a statement issued by his lawyers, the killer said, “I fully accept the consequences of my actions, and there isn’t a day I don’t feel the weight of that loss - a weight I will carry for the rest of my life
Bull Fucking Shit.
‘Man’ murdered his daughter is cold blood and expects everyone to feel sorry for him. I hope he rectally gets he deserves in prison.
Prison rape isn’t funny or acceptable when it happens to bad people either. It just perpetuates the idea that anal sex between two men is always a savage act.
Instead, hope he gets savagely assaulted regularly for what he did.
Also it’s clearly cruel and unusual punishment, which we are forbidden from using.
I watch a court video the other day of a judge telling a young ‘offender’ that if he’s not careful, he will go to prison and get “passed around” by the other inmates. I thought to myself “This judge, who knowingly sends people to a place where he know they will get raped, is an affront to justice. What an immoral piece of shit who willingly works with a system that is contrary to our legally defined moral obligations.”
It’s like Spencer Tracy said in the movie Judgement at Nuremberg. The very first time a Judge sentences one person to such unconscionable punishment, that is when the Judge becomes fully complicit with the system. Not just complicit, but a necessary and willing part of the system’s survival and propagation.
reminds me when a woman ran her husband over because he didn’t vote for mitt romney during the 2012 election.
these politicians don’t give a fuck about you and won’t hesitate to take away your livelihood no matter how ‘loyal’ you are.
I’m beginning to wonder if the libraries worth of books written about WWII were an attempt to try to understand a phenomenon, but in all that examination we were still unable to identify the best way to prevent or battle fascism.
The best way is a lead vaccine.
I get what you’re saying but I think a better way is a far deadlier pandemic with an actual, perfectly working vaccine. Those idiots will refuse and kill themselves over their culture war.
I distinctly remember one old man who refused the COVID vaccine, dying in the hospital, that was asked by a reporter if he regretted not taking the shot. He said no and he’s make the same decision again. He died ugly and in pain, and I’m glad he suffered for his stupidity.
Covid wasn’t deadly enough. Change my mind
Change your own mind, ya misanthrope. You can’t hate humans better. The most important finding of all psychology is the Fundamental Attribution Error. Far less than our inherent traits, it is situations that dictate our behaviour.
