Barrel/muzzle device = steel, buttstock is usually plastic nowadays, not the dumbest thing I’ve seen these goons do. Muzzle strikes are a thing in long arm combatives.
Probably should have used an actual tool for it, though. And maybe not gangster-gripping the rifle to get a downward trajectory of the round for safety (I am being really, really generous here).
Very fucking unsafe to drive the muzzle of your rifle into any rigid object. Muzzle strikes are a thing. However you target the soft tissue of an assailant that has gotten within grabbing distance of your weapon and you do not want to kill them.
What this asshole did is dangerous on many fronts. They’re using what appears to be their suppressor, which is atleast an 8" lever, that’s likely screwed into an adapter that’s then screwed onto the barrel. It’s as much of a rube goldberg setup as it sounds. However under normal wear and tear still usually robust. It’s designed to be used in tension to suppress the muzzle flash and report of a fired round by slowing and cooling the resulting gasses.
What it’s not designed to be used as, is a FUCKING HAMMER, which puts it in compression. This asshole is striking a hard surface, with a steel blunt tube, comprised of a very complicated inner geometry. Not only that but he’s striking at an angle levering the wide and rigid tube against a narrow coupler. I see a baffle strike and a ruined suppressor in his future. Possibly a ruined barrel crown depending on how much he just fucking bent that shit.
Now, to the biomechanics of what is happening. He had his hand on the pistol grip and his support hand on the foregrip. There’s no fucking leverage there he can meaningfully exert. There’s a reason spears don’t have pistol grips. So the hand around the pistol grip is going to try to get the most purchase on the weapon. Which means it’ll be riding up to the upper of the weapon and on the way there it could turn the weapon safety. Also, around that pistol grip is the trigger.
The driver of that car is being terrorized, by a moron, who very easily could’ve had a negligent discharge and shot her.
Fucking nightmare fuel all around. Those poor women. I hope they get justice because I would’ve gone to jail or died if it were me recording.
There are specific window-breaker muzzle attachments for this purpose. It’s not what I’d use either if something without a gun mounted behind it was available though. Some eBay warrior wanted to try out their high-speed tacticool gear and got their golden opportunity.
No. You buttstrike someone if you have no bayonet. Striking someone with the barrel is dumb because youre at least gonna fuck up your zero and you might bend the barrel which could cause a rapid unscheduled disassembly of your rifle when you fire it.
Military and police training literally say that if you need to melee with your gun you use a muzzle strike - it’s usually reserved for someone who’s actively trying to grab your gun by the barrel and you don’t actually feel like using lethal force. Using a muzzle strike against a fleshy target won’t do anything to the gun’s zero or ability to fire, you don’t do it on a hard surface like glass. Hitting someone with your stock might actually break the gun if the recoil spring goes through it.
I remember my bayonet class from my time in the army. We were never taught any such thing. We were actively discouraged from hitting things with our muzzle.
What is your experience with rifle combat? Because mine is practical application in iraq.
Edit: lol love the block because you got called out. Next time don’t spout off stuff you don’t know about. And maybe don’t accuse people of being war criminals just because you’re mad about being called out for being wrong.
You’re just going to insult someone for making a reasoned, informed reply to a comment?
There are many reasons someone might join the armed forces, and whether or not you are a conscientious objector, you might consider thinking before calling someone a war criminal without knowing what they actually did during their time in the military. Plenty of people went into combat zones without committing any war crimes.
Also, ad hominem attacks are dumb and you shouldn’t use them.
How do you know they don’t regret it? Because they don’t whimper on every comment ‘Oh it was terrible and I wish I had never joined the armed forces’ every time they write about their time there? Don’t presume. Also, ad hominem attacks are dumb and you shouldn’t use them.
It appears they are using the barrel of the rifle to break the window, which is even sillier than the other thing.
Barrel/muzzle device = steel, buttstock is usually plastic nowadays, not the dumbest thing I’ve seen these goons do. Muzzle strikes are a thing in long arm combatives.
Probably should have used an actual tool for it, though. And maybe not gangster-gripping the rifle to get a downward trajectory of the round for safety (I am being really, really generous here).
More it seems unsafe than damaging to the rifle, but I guess they don’t care about that anyway?
Very fucking unsafe to drive the muzzle of your rifle into any rigid object. Muzzle strikes are a thing. However you target the soft tissue of an assailant that has gotten within grabbing distance of your weapon and you do not want to kill them.
What this asshole did is dangerous on many fronts. They’re using what appears to be their suppressor, which is atleast an 8" lever, that’s likely screwed into an adapter that’s then screwed onto the barrel. It’s as much of a rube goldberg setup as it sounds. However under normal wear and tear still usually robust. It’s designed to be used in tension to suppress the muzzle flash and report of a fired round by slowing and cooling the resulting gasses.
What it’s not designed to be used as, is a FUCKING HAMMER, which puts it in compression. This asshole is striking a hard surface, with a steel blunt tube, comprised of a very complicated inner geometry. Not only that but he’s striking at an angle levering the wide and rigid tube against a narrow coupler. I see a baffle strike and a ruined suppressor in his future. Possibly a ruined barrel crown depending on how much he just fucking bent that shit.
Now, to the biomechanics of what is happening. He had his hand on the pistol grip and his support hand on the foregrip. There’s no fucking leverage there he can meaningfully exert. There’s a reason spears don’t have pistol grips. So the hand around the pistol grip is going to try to get the most purchase on the weapon. Which means it’ll be riding up to the upper of the weapon and on the way there it could turn the weapon safety. Also, around that pistol grip is the trigger.
The driver of that car is being terrorized, by a moron, who very easily could’ve had a negligent discharge and shot her.
Fucking nightmare fuel all around. Those poor women. I hope they get justice because I would’ve gone to jail or died if it were me recording.
This is an excellent commentary. Thanks!
Or perhaps they could realize that honking your horn is free speech and have some sense of perspective - there should not have been an assault rifle
There are specific window-breaker muzzle attachments for this purpose. It’s not what I’d use either if something without a gun mounted behind it was available though. Some eBay warrior wanted to try out their high-speed tacticool gear and got their golden opportunity.
You are supposed to use your muzzle if you need to use your gun as a melee weapon. That’s why bayonets exist.
No. You buttstrike someone if you have no bayonet. Striking someone with the barrel is dumb because youre at least gonna fuck up your zero and you might bend the barrel which could cause a rapid unscheduled disassembly of your rifle when you fire it.
Military and police training literally say that if you need to melee with your gun you use a muzzle strike - it’s usually reserved for someone who’s actively trying to grab your gun by the barrel and you don’t actually feel like using lethal force. Using a muzzle strike against a fleshy target won’t do anything to the gun’s zero or ability to fire, you don’t do it on a hard surface like glass. Hitting someone with your stock might actually break the gun if the recoil spring goes through it.
I remember my bayonet class from my time in the army. We were never taught any such thing. We were actively discouraged from hitting things with our muzzle.
What is your experience with rifle combat? Because mine is practical application in iraq.
Edit: lol love the block because you got called out. Next time don’t spout off stuff you don’t know about. And maybe don’t accuse people of being war criminals just because you’re mad about being called out for being wrong.
Mods deleted my previous reply, so I’ll say it agaun: war criminal scum.
You’re just going to insult someone for making a reasoned, informed reply to a comment?
There are many reasons someone might join the armed forces, and whether or not you are a conscientious objector, you might consider thinking before calling someone a war criminal without knowing what they actually did during their time in the military. Plenty of people went into combat zones without committing any war crimes.
Also, ad hominem attacks are dumb and you shouldn’t use them.
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Against women and children, I suppose?
Either way, it’s been a thing for a while now. Buttstriking is not something you do with a long gun.
Lol what kind of Argument is that?
I don’t tend to take seriously people who went to become peons for the war on terror and don’t regret it.
How do you know they don’t regret it? Because they don’t whimper on every comment ‘Oh it was terrible and I wish I had never joined the armed forces’ every time they write about their time there? Don’t presume. Also, ad hominem attacks are dumb and you shouldn’t use them.