Not really. They’re not making consumer grade stuff, they’re making hardware for data centers so unless you’re planning on doing a DIY data center you’re not buying the hardware. Hard drives are likely an exception.
You’re more likely to see cheap VPS services than cheap secondhand hardware.
Sure but that will only be in the immediate, especially as the manufacturers rush to trying to produce consumer and industry shit once the AI cow goes bust. There’ll be an immediate rush of these things being sold 5090 prices only to drop down to 1090 or lower prices once they start liquidating stock to write off and the scrappers start selling these things for pennies on the dollar.
Being in the self-hosted community I know people buy used enterprise servers to set up their own services, but consumers who buy enterprise servers probably make up less than 1% of all the consumers who buy hardware.
Except, i doubt anyone will be doing much with a 32 code Xenon CPU Windows snobs cant even run Windows on without a super giga 1000€ license for more than 16 Core CPUs
And the cuda only fanless and outputless GPU will also be kinda useless, especially because they all need a special setup to force feed air through the entire rack to not overheat
I mean it’s 64/128/256 cores for home/pro/workstation so not really. People buying aftermarket server parts that want windows can probably figure out how to type irm https://get.activated.win/ | iex if they don’t want to pay for it anyways lol.
And on top: ROK ISOs by hardware vendors by HPE (and probably lenovo) don’t have the trial time limit and can be run indefinitely without a license.
You only need to satisfy the requirement of running a supported motherboard during boot of the iso.
Well…Too bad that I can (unlike in ESXi) modify the manufacturer string in proxmox to say whatever I want ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
At work we sell servers by HPE.
We create Install-ISOs from the included install ISO.
At boot the Installer checks if the system is manufactured by the vendor.
If it is: It continues boot and offers you the installer options
If it is not: It will fail with a message that the manufacturer doesnt match.
On ESXi you need to pass the argument smbios.reflectHost = true (or something along those lines)
Dunno how HPE customized the install.wim
But you can probably get those for cheap on ebay and maybe compare the wims for differences.
Yeah I’ve reinstalled Windows on Dells and it just works without any hassle because it reads something in the bios that says it already has a Windows license. I was wondering what it reads that would be configured in Proxmox to allow the same. I would be nice to be able to create a Windows VM on the fly without any license setup or license bypass tricks during/after install. Instead it would just work because Proxmox tells it to.
Once installed it doesnt bother anymore with those checks.
So right now my state is essentially an eternal windows VM that doesnt let me change the wallpaper ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Wait til all these projects crash, burn, and get liquidated. Gonna be an amazing secondary market for brand new, unused bulk hardware.
Not really. They’re not making consumer grade stuff, they’re making hardware for data centers so unless you’re planning on doing a DIY data center you’re not buying the hardware. Hard drives are likely an exception.
You’re more likely to see cheap VPS services than cheap secondhand hardware.
I’ve watched enough Bringus to know that anything can be used for gaming if you’re stubborn enough.
Oh absolutely, but I doubt anyone is paying the equivalent of a 5090 to get the performance of a 3060. Server GPU-s aren’t optimized for gaming.
Sure but that will only be in the immediate, especially as the manufacturers rush to trying to produce consumer and industry shit once the AI cow goes bust. There’ll be an immediate rush of these things being sold 5090 prices only to drop down to 1090 or lower prices once they start liquidating stock to write off and the scrappers start selling these things for pennies on the dollar.
I don’t know many people buy used server and JBODs. I wouldn’t say that consumers don’t buy them.
Being in the self-hosted community I know people buy used enterprise servers to set up their own services, but consumers who buy enterprise servers probably make up less than 1% of all the consumers who buy hardware.
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Yes, of course
Except, i doubt anyone will be doing much with a 32 code Xenon CPU Windows snobs cant even run Windows on without a super giga 1000€ license for more than 16 Core CPUs
And the cuda only fanless and outputless GPU will also be kinda useless, especially because they all need a special setup to force feed air through the entire rack to not overheat
I mean it’s 64/128/256 cores for home/pro/workstation so not really. People buying aftermarket server parts that want windows can probably figure out how to type
irm https://get.activated.win/ | iexif they don’t want to pay for it anyways lol.I’m not using Windows servers at home but if I did then a license wouldn’t be a factor when deciding what hardware to buy.
And on top: ROK ISOs by hardware vendors by HPE (and probably lenovo) don’t have the trial time limit and can be run indefinitely without a license.
You only need to satisfy the requirement of running a supported motherboard during boot of the iso.
Well…Too bad that I can (unlike in ESXi) modify the manufacturer string in proxmox to say whatever I want ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Could you point me to more info about that?
At work we sell servers by HPE.
We create Install-ISOs from the included install ISO.
At boot the Installer checks if the system is manufactured by the vendor.
If it is: It continues boot and offers you the installer options
If it is not: It will fail with a message that the manufacturer doesnt match.
On ESXi you need to pass the argument smbios.reflectHost = true (or something along those lines)
Dunno how HPE customized the install.wim
But you can probably get those for cheap on ebay and maybe compare the wims for differences.
Yeah I’ve reinstalled Windows on Dells and it just works without any hassle because it reads something in the bios that says it already has a Windows license. I was wondering what it reads that would be configured in Proxmox to allow the same. I would be nice to be able to create a Windows VM on the fly without any license setup or license bypass tricks during/after install. Instead it would just work because Proxmox tells it to.
Once installed it doesnt bother anymore with those checks.
So right now my state is essentially an eternal windows VM that doesnt let me change the wallpaper ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
can’t it be activated with MAS?
https://massgrave.dev/
Year of the Linux Desktop! Any day now… any day… huffs copium
God, I hope so…