I declare all resources mine purchased with a fancy loan. Now that all resources are mine, they are all worth 100,000 times more then before. Dont worry, if you cant afford to pay 100,000x more you can rent some if my stuff! Also now that I own everything, I’m To Big To Fail and will need a bailout when I cant pay my fancy loan.
This is the healthiest, most efficient economy possible. To desire an alternative way to live our lives is now added to the DSM and will trigger involuntary institutionalization in a re-education camp.
Aliens visit earth and you want to know why? To study our highly advanced economic system of course!
What’s next, PCB producers?
Doubt it. Those don’t require as crazy of infrastructure as microchips. If PCB starts going up, we’re in huge trouble
I really hope this is a temporary supply bottleneck. I understand the constraints of producing chips and highly specialized hardware but AI demand is only going to go up from here.
I’m optimistic a game changer gets whipped out of thin air
3 months ago, watching ram prices skyrocketing, anticipating this exact scenario would happen, i bought 5 10tb drives.
best decision i’ve made in a while.
Nice. I got three 14TBs around the same time for the same reason glad I did.
Bullshit. I call 100% bullshit.
Wdym? Do you believe the manufacturers would try to congincr you they’re out of stock to create scarcity and increace prices?!? Do you jnow how silly that idea is?! \s
Sort of, there used to be way more HDD manufacturers and then they all talked each other into dropping them for SDDs. Now a sudden need arises and there are no HDDs.
Those datacenters are real. AI companies aren’t using their money to build empty buildings. They’re buying enormous amounts of computer hardware off the market to fill them.
https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2025/09/18/inside-the-worlds-most-powerful-ai-datacenter/
Today in Wisconsin we introduced Fairwater, our newest US AI datacenter, the largest and most sophisticated AI factory we’ve built yet. In addition to our Fairwater datacenter in Wisconsin, we also have multiple identical Fairwater datacenters under construction in other locations across the US.
These AI datacenters are significant capital projects, representing tens of billions of dollars of investments and hundreds of thousands of cutting-edge AI chips, and will seamlessly connect with our global Microsoft Cloud of over 400 datacenters in 70 regions around the world. Through innovation that can enable us to link these AI datacenters in a distributed network, we multiply the efficiency and compute in an exponential way to further democratize access to AI services globally.
An AI datacenter is a unique, purpose-built facility designed specifically for AI training as well as running large-scale artificial intelligence models and applications. Microsoft’s AI datacenters power OpenAI, Microsoft AI, our Copilot capabilities and many more leading AI workloads.
The new Fairwater AI datacenter in Wisconsin stands as a remarkable feat of engineering, covering 315 acres and housing three massive buildings with a combined 1.2 million square feet under roofs. Constructing this facility required 46.6 miles of deep foundation piles, 26.5 million pounds of structural steel, 120 miles of medium-voltage underground cable and 72.6 miles of mechanical piping.
Unlike typical cloud datacenters, which are optimized to run many smaller, independent workloads such as hosting websites, email or business applications, this datacenter is built to work as one massive AI supercomputer using a single flat networking interconnecting hundreds of thousands of the latest NVIDIA GPUs. In fact, it will deliver 10X the performance of the world’s fastest supercomputer today, enabling AI training and inference workloads at a level never before seen.
Hard drives haven’t been impacted nearly much as memory, which is the real bottleneck, but when just one AI company, OpenAI, rolls up and buys 40% of global memory production capacity’s output, it’d be extremely unlikely that we wouldn’t see memory shortages for at least a while, since it takes years to build new production capacity. And then you have other AI companies who want memory. And purchases of memory from companies who are, as a one-off, extending their PC upgrade cycle, due to the current shortage who will also be competing for supply. If you have less supply relative to demand of a product, price goes up to the new point where the available amount of memory people are willing to buy at that new price point matches what’s actually available. Everyone else gets priced out. And it won’t be until either demand drops (which is what people talking about a ‘bubble popping’ are thinking might occur, if the AI-infrastructure-building effort stops sooner than expected), or enough new production capacity comes online to provide enough supply, that that’ll change. Memory manufacturers are building new factories and expanding existing ones, and we’ve had articles about that. But it takes years to do that.
25% of the datacenters being constructed right now will go bankrupt.
The majority of this AI surge is for datacenters that neither have power nor water.
Its all gonna end up being shredded, if it exists at all.
I guess my combined 12TB across five drives ranging in age from 13 to six years old will have to suffice. The only reason I’d need to buy a new drive is if a couple of my current drives die. Which does happen on occasion, of course.
Also, fuck AI, and the assholes who made it, and everyone who currently, personally profits off it. This bubble popping will be the catalyst to take down the entire world economy. MMW.
glad i kept all the ones pulled from previous ssd upgrades and ewaste that went through here. i have several i have yet to reuse.
the shit-tier shingled ones i got a couple years ago to store media files had been relatively stable for years on price at ~ 100-110usd. they’re now 170+
SSDs, microSD cards, and now HDDs? They’re really pushing it.
Don’t forget RAM.
I just have bouth 12TB WD off their site last month. Checked right now - Sales Inquiry instead of Add to cart. Rip…
They could garner good will by setting aside a % of their stock to sell to red-blooded people at a lower price…
If someone walks into a grocery store before a storm and wants to buy 10 pallets of water, the store tells them to fuck off.
Then scalpers would buy them and jack the price up.
limit to one per customer per day like most tcg sellers do with pokemon and magic.
I’m sure there’s ways around that. Different cards, PO boxes, email addresses, names. Even if they had only 4 ways of buying that’s still almost 30 buys a week times however many scalpers there are.
obviously there will be a handful of people pulling that shit but every system basically assumes that 10% of the people using the system will use it unethically to their advantage. just balance around that, as the vast majority aren’t exploitive scumbags.
You’re asking a lot of an already uncaring system. 10% can do plenty of damage.
i’m not asking anything, i’m saying every system assumes 10% scumbaggery. its capitalism, baby!
That’s because they’re guaranteed to sell all the water when there’s a storm anyway. There’s a reason there’s laws against raising prices in an emergency.
I consider not having access to reasonably-priced hardware an emergency ;(
That’s 1 day. Guaranteed if someone walked in and said “I want to buy all the water you can sell for the next 9 months”, they’d be singing a very different tune.
Wait til all these projects crash, burn, and get liquidated. Gonna be an amazing secondary market for brand new, unused bulk hardware.
Not really. They’re not making consumer grade stuff, they’re making hardware for data centers so unless you’re planning on doing a DIY data center you’re not buying the hardware. Hard drives are likely an exception.
You’re more likely to see cheap VPS services than cheap secondhand hardware.
I’ve watched enough Bringus to know that anything can be used for gaming if you’re stubborn enough.
Oh absolutely, but I doubt anyone is paying the equivalent of a 5090 to get the performance of a 3060. Server GPU-s aren’t optimized for gaming.
Sure but that will only be in the immediate, especially as the manufacturers rush to trying to produce consumer and industry shit once the AI cow goes bust. There’ll be an immediate rush of these things being sold 5090 prices only to drop down to 1090 or lower prices once they start liquidating stock to write off and the scrappers start selling these things for pennies on the dollar.
I don’t know many people buy used server and JBODs. I wouldn’t say that consumers don’t buy them.
Being in the self-hosted community I know people buy used enterprise servers to set up their own services, but consumers who buy enterprise servers probably make up less than 1% of all the consumers who buy hardware.
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Yes, of course
Except, i doubt anyone will be doing much with a 32 code Xenon CPU Windows snobs cant even run Windows on without a super giga 1000€ license for more than 16 Core CPUs
And the cuda only fanless and outputless GPU will also be kinda useless, especially because they all need a special setup to force feed air through the entire rack to not overheat
Windows snobs cant even run Windows on without a super giga 1000€ license for more than 16 Core CPUs
I’m not using Windows servers at home but if I did then a license wouldn’t be a factor when deciding what hardware to buy.
And on top: ROK ISOs by hardware vendors by HPE (and probably lenovo) don’t have the trial time limit and can be run indefinitely without a license.
You only need to satisfy the requirement of running a supported motherboard during boot of the iso.
Well…Too bad that I can (unlike in ESXi) modify the manufacturer string in proxmox to say whatever I want ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Could you point me to more info about that?
At work we sell servers by HPE.
We create Install-ISOs from the included install ISO.At boot the Installer checks if the system is manufactured by the vendor.
If it is: It continues boot and offers you the installer options
If it is not: It will fail with a message that the manufacturer doesnt match.On ESXi you need to pass the argument smbios.reflectHost = true (or something along those lines)
Dunno how HPE customized the install.wim
But you can probably get those for cheap on ebay and maybe compare the wims for differences.Yeah I’ve reinstalled Windows on Dells and it just works without any hassle because it reads something in the bios that says it already has a Windows license. I was wondering what it reads that would be configured in Proxmox to allow the same. I would be nice to be able to create a Windows VM on the fly without any license setup or license bypass tricks during/after install. Instead it would just work because Proxmox tells it to.
Once installed it doesnt bother anymore with those checks.
So right now my state is essentially an eternal windows VM that doesnt let me change the wallpaper ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I mean it’s 64/128/256 cores for home/pro/workstation so not really. People buying aftermarket server parts that want windows can probably figure out how to type
irm https://get.activated.win/ | iexif they don’t want to pay for it anyways lol.a super giga 1000€ license for more than 16 Core CPUs
Year of the Linux Desktop! Any day now… any day… huffs copium
God, I hope so…
Free market totally regulating itself like we’ve always been told.
"Our merchants and masters complain much of the bad effects of high wages in raising the price and lessening the sale of goods. They say nothing concerning the bad effects of high profits. They are silent with regard to the pernicious effects of their own gains. They complain only of those of other people.”
- Adam Smith, An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations
The part the people peddling the Free Market as self regulating never say is that only markets with no barriers to entry like for soap or teddy bears are actually Free and most are no such thing.
I think even both teddybears and soap are quite regulated markets in EU, could probably require a capital to enter the market a lot larger than you would think, to get anywhere beyond the local flea market level of sales.
The thing is most of that comes from early market theory that almost universally had a warning not to do or allow this type of shit.
How can you doubt the Invisible Hand? Have you not seen how much it jerks?
🎈📌 when
The end model will be the 70s Arthur Clarke prediction. Just a dumb terminal with no processing capabilities at home, hooked to a mainframe (privately owned of course) which you’ll have to use your all your daily needs.
Burn it all down.
We don’t need no water let the mother fucker burn.
Burn motherfucker burn.
