Intel drivers:
I need an intel driver to turn the fucking useless onboard graphics off. for debian. any tips?
You can’t. Some laptops have the igpu as the dedicated driver of the display and can’t do hardware mux. If your laptop doesn’t offer the option in UEFI, it probably doesn’t support it.
thank you for this info. what do you think would happen if I did the following , more or less with the info indicated in my post here?
https://gist.github.com/pjobson/9e5f7349cf4f28bc82f82ea980047778
https://lemmy.world/post/43248486/22203270EDIT: I’d get a fucking black screen. 😭🔫
I’ve learned it best to use nvidia drivers with nvidia cards and the AMD drivers with the AMD cards. I recommend this for performance.
Thank you for posting this!! I can’t get an erection. I tried using an AMD driver the other day with my NVIDIA card and was stumped why my screen was blank. I’d give you gold if I could!
Absolutely crazy take, I bet no one has thought of this.
I think it’s more of a
Open drivers vs proprietary drivers
That’s the thing with AMD drivers, they’re the damn near perfect software. Doing lots of stuff yet you’d never know it’s there. It stays nicely out of the user’s way, you don’t even have to think about installing them and shit just works
Then there are the Nvidia drivers
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15 years ago this was true lol
3 years ago this was true. Not sure if nvidia works properly with wayland even now, though at least the trend is different now
It has no issues, NVIDIA just works these days (if you use a distro where you can choose to use proprietary drivers for it during installation)
I mean yeah, but that’s a little like saying “computers all have WiFi capabilities these days, as long as you only buy motherboards with built in WiFi.” It’s a pretty large limitation to place on the user’s choice. Especially when Linux users like to meme about certain distros being better or worse.
It used to be that there was no option at all, on any distro. You’d have the broken proprietary drivers, or the open source reverse engineered one with half the performance and unreliability in specialty features.
Since then Nvidia has shifted focus to get their drivers working properly, and there were also changes making them more open source, tho I’m not sure that’d mean the “proprietary driver” will go full foss at some point.
If op is to be believed, the proprietsry driver is already a lot more stable, so it’s now a software licensing issue not an unfixable technical issue.
Exactly!
Well, no, not at all. Nvida works on wayland on any distro, but it just works on some distros.
It just works means no user config required.
Are there distros where you can’t do that? I mean, maybe Debian?
I have had only a few issues with nVidia on Linux for a few years. But, I am using an old card. I’d like to live in the nice sunny castle, not the scary one with bad weather. But, at least I have mostly working shelter while I play my games.
I think there are some that only install FOSS during initial installation
Like which ones?
OpenSuse, I think
You might not remember ATI atrocity.
i’d argue it was the opposite back then. i have PTSD from fglrx
That’s fair. Mint did not care much with my old AMD Phenom 2. It had so much screen tear
Eh. I had issues with Nvidia drivers like 5 years ago. Still, a lot more stable today
The fps gap in games is still quite high with nvidia compared to windows, amd is almost on par now
This is the main reason I switched. I got about 30% less performance on a 3060 Ti in Linux than on Windows. And then Counter Strike 2 came out and I was fucked. Now I get about 30% more performance on Linux than on Windows with my 7900 XT (got it on super sale, so worth it). That is ultimately why I switched. And I can use sway and hyprland now, instead of i3. For me, the switch to AMD brought huge improvements.
Never had an issue with my Nvidia card. OBS can use the hardware encoder out of the box. Just a few weeks ago upgraded to a AMD card and had to set some “advanced” settings in OBS to do the same. Really happy overall, but after seeing this meme for years I expected rainbows and sunshine but was unpleasantly surprised in that regard.
my nvidia card caused sleeping and hibernation to randomly and regularly fail, and it made me very vary of system updates breaking random things.
I never use sleeping or hibernation, so can’t attest to that functionality.
Updates never broke random things for me with regards to the gpu. My install is 7 years old, so it’s been updated a lot.
My nvidia card prevents suspend working properly, but to be fair my previous nvidia card had the same problem when it was in a Windows machine.
Intel be like that skeleton at the bottom underwater
In LMDE4, 5 and 6, I pretty much had to install the OEM NVIDIA driver because the open source Nouveau driver didn’t quite cut it, but for AMD, the stock driver that comes with LMDE7 has worked fine for my purposes so far.
I may change my tune if I try to run a more modern game*, but that will likely put me back in Frankendebian territory which caused me problems under LMDE6. (As you might surmise, I upgraded to new hardware and tried to do things as I’d always done them when LMDE6 was current.)
* Minecraft notwithstanding, because it both is and isn’t modern. That can get above 1000 FPS if I don’t limit it.
nvidia drivers are all dependant on who is implementing them
I only ever have problems if the kernel is updated without the drivers, because I somehow updated before the video driver was included
this is my experience for over 10 years now on Arch
For those cases I love endeavourOS, as it configures exactly these (in my opinion PITA) cases automatically “correctly”
I just use the dkms driver package
Yeah, have it setup in nix to just work and haven’t had issues in years. When I ran arch (btw) I was routinely recovering my system from bad updates
how often did you update? I run pacman a couple times a month but rarely at the beginning of the week or on weekends. I’ve only had three or four OMG what just happened reboots. And twice it was something that needed the front page of the arch webpage calling out the fix, I know I should look there more often but I only ever do when it’s so bad I can’t make heads or tails of it
I usually updated a couple times a week and got bit around once a year over the course of probably 8 years running arch
On one hand, setting up complicated stuff is a challenge and also fun.
On the other hand, I don’t wanna pay a company doing propreitery stuff.
On the other feet, prices are increasing due to chatbot girlfriend arms race between richest dudes on earth; are GPUs really even worth it anymore?
this has not been my experience with AMD drivers…
I’m super annoyed at Fedora workstation at this moment. My 240hz Samsung monitor can’t use HDMI to get to 240hz, regardless of the quality of the cable. I have dual monitors and one is already using the type c so one of my monitors have to be 120hz.
That’s the HTMI forum for you
Ya, I found out that HDMI can’t go higher than 120hz because anything higher needs licensing since HDMI is not an open standard.
Well, can’t say for everybody, but i have no trouble running nvidia gpu on Hyprland with nvidia-open drivers. Haven’t spotted any troubles with Plasma or MangoWC either, even though i haven’t used them for as long.
I’m pretty sure you need the proprietary ones but I could be mistaken
I run a legacy NVIDIA graphics in my ten year old laptop. GeForce 750M. The proprietary drivers are faster and have real video acceleration but haven’t been updated in forever and don’t support Wayland.
Nouveau works okay. I haven’t gotten video acceleration to work yet, even with installed firmware. Nouveau-vulkan is a bit buggy.
A decade ago it used to be opposite. How far Nvidia has fallen.
Considering their stock price has grown by 27,557% in those 10 years, I don’t think too many people at the company are concerned with their “falling”
https://www.financecharts.com/stocks/NVDA/performance/total-return
It sucks that they abandoned us, and it’s awful that they’re a huge part of the AI bubble,. But, this is like an artist who used to play on Tuesday evenings at your local live music venues “selling out” and now playing stadiums.
