I’ve recently started trying to improve my typing speed, which has probably been held back by my somewhat unconventional typing style. Formal touch typing was never a part of my education, and while years of computer use eventually led to me being able to type without looking, I’m probably not as efficient as I could be.

Can you touch type - and with proper form? QWERTY, DVORAK or other layout?

  • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    I don’t recall much of my process learning touch typing on qwerty but the process was frustrating at first learning dvorak because the qwerty muscle memory kept getting in the way. But I made myself use it in IRC and kept a diagram of the layout on my 2nd monitor. I also played some typing games. Then, over time, I got better and better with it and started moving other programs over until it was my main layout. Now the first thing I do on a new to me PC is go looking for keyboard layout options (and holy fuck MS has moved that shit all over the place).

    Wayland (or something in KDE) has the best handling I’ve seen yet. Gaming was always kinda annoying as different games have different levels of support for alternate layouts.

    On windows, some would just work, remapping the default keybinds to the layout (because moving isn’t about hitting wasd specifically, but the keys in those places) and text types as expected. Some I’d go into options and remap to dvorak. Some I’d just switch the layout and be annoyed any time I had to type text instead of hitting keybinds.

    On Linux, Fedora Cinnamon, it was just random whether the layout would work like I wanted or do something else, like reverse (where even switching layouts keeps the incorrect dvorak layout), or sometimes it just ignored the system layout entirely. I had to remap and reset to defaults a lot.

    But then I switched to Fedora KDE and it’s perfect. Only “issue” is I had to set the default to qwerty, but then it uses that layout to remap the bindings for other layouts and both bidings and typing just works all the time now.

  • CromulantCrow@lemmy.zip
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    19 hours ago

    Dvorak at work, QWERTY away from work. I occasionally start typing Dvorak at home, but it doesn’t take much to reset the brain to QWERTY. I learned touch typing in high school in the 80s on a mechanical typewriter.

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    1 day ago

    I can touch type, but not with proper form. I use a really fast “hunt and peck” method with my two index fingers and my other fingers for specific keys such as backspace, shift, space, ctrl, etc. I can typically type between 70 - 80 wpm with high accuracy.

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      18 hours ago

      Thats me, I the ring finger only gets involved if I need to press 2 of ctrl/alt/shift at the same time

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    The ONE class from High School that taught me something I literally use every single day.

    Typing.

    I graduated High School in 1988 and have used a keyboard almost every single day and can touch type with alacrity. As far as what layout, QWERTY.

    While Dvorak is supposed to be faster and more efficient, I’m an old IT guy and not a typist. While some of my work does include writing presentations and reports, I’m doing more punching commands and using short cuts. It’s just not worth the effort to learn another layout.

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      3 hours ago

      To be fair, programming is basically the art of making the computer do as much as possible with as little typing as possible.

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    23 hours ago

    No. I have become very fast at the two-finger hunt and peck method after years of use.

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    2 days ago

    I was never able to touch type up through middle of high school despite typing papers and taking formal typing courses. Once I got into online PC gaming and also programming I got good at touch typing very fast. Is typing a skill you use daily? Natural practice beats forced if you already have the fundamentals down. QWERTY for me.

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      2 days ago

      Same. I tried really hard to learn it but gave up in frustration. 5ish years with plenty of computer use later I suddenly found myself typing without looking.

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    19 hours ago

    Yes. Custom layout so I was forced to learn touch typing. I’m way faster now than I was with with qwerty after years of programming because I would always find myself looking at the keyboard. So, I guess with qwerty, the same could be accomplished by taking the characters off.

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    I was like, wait, what’s “touch typing”? Oh writing without looking?

    Yeah, been doing that a couple of decades prolly. I even do it on my phone most of the time. That’s why I typo quite a lot unless I proofread. I do usually use the suggestions and glimpse at the kb from time to time and you can half see it anyway but yeah.

    With a computer I don’t really ever look at the keyboard. My speed has been measured a couple of times I think but can’t recall anything except getting the highest grade. And I think those tests limit my speed as I don’t copy things as fast as when I’m heatedly constructing and argument myself. Feels like I’ve got much better flow then than when reading a word and then having to output it at the same time.

    I need to see whether I can measure my own speed sometime when I get into a nice argument and have good flow again.

  • BurgerBaron@piefed.social
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    Yes, but not in a standard way. I do things my own self taught way and didn’t care to adopt anything my schools taught. They did teach how to type all through grade school where I grew up. It’s just that I was usually the fastest in the class doing my own weird thing already and that never changed even in high school where I got bonus credits for typing above 80WPM.

    I’m probably not as efficient as I could be.

    Same here, my average WPM definitely suffers harshly or strangely thrives in weird ways depending on what repetitive keys I need to press I noticed in the Final Sentence typing battle royale demo on Steam that would be solved by typing properly.

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    2 days ago

    I learned to touch-type QWERTY in late 90s chat rooms. By 2006, I was bragging about my 100 WPM speed in my online dating profile. I met one girl who challenged me to a typing contest. She won, then I won, and then we called it a draw. We’ve been married for 13 years and had our third child last month.

    When I was learning to touch type, I found it helpful to practice in my head even when I was away from the keyboard. Like whatever I’m thinking about, I’m picturing a keyboard in my head and where each letter of each word is. It slows my thoughts down a little, but that’s not always a bad thing.