Hey gang, I posted this in the relevant community but I figured it won’t hurt to cast a larger net. I haven’t done the custom ROM biz since around 2013 and I’m looking to degoogle my family on the cheap. I’ve spent the last 3 weeks getting dicked around by google pixels so if I can avoid those entirely I’d like to.
My plan is to go with CRDroid, curate the apps myself using mostly FOSS. Here’s where I’m in need of an adult:
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Oneplus 9 is in my price range and looks like it will last but I can only find it t-mobile locked. I can carrier unlock it myself, but will I be able to access the boot loader. I know I can’t at all for Verizon, I wanna make sure i don’t accidentally get trapped again.
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I can’t find many options outside of GrapheneOS, lineage, and crdroid, is that really the whole list? I like the options in crdroid but I’ll take other suggestions.
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I’ve been using Blu phones for ages, they don’t come with any of the headache to get them unlocked and I’ve been using this one for nearly 8 years so I know they last. Is there a ROM that runs on Blu? I hate that all the compatible devices are name brand, high dollar, nonsense.
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Are there any parental control apps that aren’t just data harvesters? I want to give me kid a phone for emergencies, but he’s 11 with ADHD that gives him the impulse control of a toddler surrounded by candy. It’d be safer for everyone if I didn’t make is easy for him to repeat the mistakes I made at his age.
Any help whatsoever would be amazing, I’ve been coming apart at the seams over this for 3 weeks now and all I really want is to be able to take all the crap off my next phone and not wake up with new crap installed.
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Aside from the three you mentioned, there is also iodeOS (which seems to be a fork of LineageOS with extra privacy stuff) and e/OS (also based on Lineage, they have their own flavour of UI that some say is similar to iOS. Never used it personally though)
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Neither of those run on Blu phones though, being based on LineageOS.
Yeah, it’s looking like no matter where I go I’m going to have to spend too much fora device with a logo if I want out of this corpo nonsense…
I mean, you could go with a Fairphone if you want something that will last (may not be within budget though)
Sadly that’s the worst option budget wise, the cheap one is twice what I have to spend for this.
Then an older device it is. Sucks that modern smartphones are so obscenely priced…
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I have a Oneplus 9 pro that I installed LineageOS on. Their installation instruction were very good and easy to follow while I wasn’t successful with other ROMs.
That’s what I keep hearing. From the look of it, getting the new OS will probably be the easiest step, the hard part is getting my hands on a phone without putting my whole rent into it.
https://github.com/pluja/awesome-privacy?tab=readme-ov-file#operating-systems
As for devices, take a look on GSMArena. You can filter by features so it’ll show you what’s possible and you can work from there. Or you could poke around forums and such. Lineage has a wiki for supported devices. See what tallies up with GSMArena’s spec sheet.
but I can only find it t-mobile locked. I can carrier unlock it myself
Careful with that assumption. I bought a TMO-locked OP Nord N200 thinking I could do that but even after using it on my account for a year, they say “it’s not in our system” and it remains carrier-locked. Basically when it hit the secondhand market, it was removed from TMO’s system and they have no record of it and cannot carrier-unlock it (or that’s the story that was told to me by 3-4 different people within TMO).
but will I be able to access the boot loader
Depends if you can carrier-unlock it.
https://service.oneplus.com/us/search/search-detail?id=op588
Carriers always technically can unlock a phone. They often don’t want to help.
So t-mobile might screw me, but if they don’t I will have bootloader access? That’s better than Verizon but not as good as unlocked from the start. Thank you
When I put the IMEI into OP’s tool, it said I had to go through TMobile to [bootloader] unlock it since it was a retail model.
TMobile said the phone “wasn’t in our system” and couldn’t provide either SIM or bootloader unlock codes.
Well I guess that’s a dodged bullet lol. Time to keep hunting.
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i don’t know, sorry.
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sadly, yes. the custom rom scene is really dead these days. there are some smaller roms like evolution x, paranoid android, blissos, derpfest (probably a few more) but i’m not sure if using them is a very good idea. honestly haven’t seen much useful feature from those since android 9 days… i just use lineageos btw, but usually an older version (<=android 11 so i can use gravitybox, which gives those customization features)
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if you can bootloader unlock them, it is possible to install a treble GSI rom, since all android devices released with android 8 oreo and later features treble. try searching phh-treble, these roms are built to work on as many devices as possible and some features may not work properly.
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sorry, i have no idea about this. maybe you can lock the phone down to the bare minimum by hiding/disabling all the apps except the essential stuff? lineageos stock is pretty much already that, just need to remove the web browser with adb pm uninstall i believe.
It’s pretty much Graphene and Lineage now.
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