Two former senior ICE officials told Newsweek that accidental discharges were not uncommon and often involved experienced agents rather than new hires.
Depends who you talk to. I know a guy in construction who has had to patch bullet holes in several LEO houses. Also at the sport men’s club I’m a member of, the only shooting injury we’ve had was from a state trooper during a training excercise. You’re point is valid, though. NDs are supposed to be minimalized through training and adherence to the 4 gun rules. These guys are morons.
I wouldn’t be surprised if ‘experienced’ agents are generally also incompetent. Pre-trump they would have mostly had pretty mundane duties, maybe manning a border station checking paperwork, maybe even desk jockeys. Sure “enforcement” actions were a thing, but I suspect a large number of people were never anywhere close to ‘action’.
A reporter that went through the hiring process included the detail that while desk work was a possibility that a recruit had to be prepared for, it was a critical priority to get as many people on the streets with guns.
What?
Coming from a multigenerational family of LE and Military I can tell you first hand that NDs are never common. Not even slightly.
Depends who you talk to. I know a guy in construction who has had to patch bullet holes in several LEO houses. Also at the sport men’s club I’m a member of, the only shooting injury we’ve had was from a state trooper during a training excercise. You’re point is valid, though. NDs are supposed to be minimalized through training and adherence to the 4 gun rules. These guys are morons.
Those guys are just typical gun owners. US has 44,000 accidental gun injuries a year, likely 5X more accidental discharges no one knows about.
It’s dangerous.
Don’t touch that.
Not that way.
What an I missing? Is the fourth also the first?
I was missing:
Reminds me of ‘Being a cop isn’t that dangerous’.
I know very few Leo’s or vets, like only a couple. But one that I do know NDed himself in the thigh while servicing his gun.
So you 0/N is somewhat offset by my 1/4.
Servicing a gun with a round in the chamber is negligent unless you’re in active combat.
There’s no context provided, but I can’t see any situation where you service a loaded firearm and point it at your thigh.
Oh yeah totally negligent. Which was my point. There are plenty of negligent cops and service members for every careful one.
Are you saying he was cleaning a loaded gun? Or am I misunderstanding?
Was a friend of my brothers and I think he did it while attempting to clear it before cleaning.
Ah, thank you for the clarification.
They shoot themselves in the foot to get out of work.
I wouldn’t be surprised if ‘experienced’ agents are generally also incompetent. Pre-trump they would have mostly had pretty mundane duties, maybe manning a border station checking paperwork, maybe even desk jockeys. Sure “enforcement” actions were a thing, but I suspect a large number of people were never anywhere close to ‘action’.
A reporter that went through the hiring process included the detail that while desk work was a possibility that a recruit had to be prepared for, it was a critical priority to get as many people on the streets with guns.
Familiarity breeds passivity
yah… “Doubt” on that one