Dbzero Governance Vote Post https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/63525728

Ahoy mateys!

A few of our users have recently pointed out that a lot of the pro-Zionist accounts on the fediverse nowadays seem to come from the feddit.org instance.

But whatever the excuse happens to be, they need to do better imo. Israel is currently the most violent, fascist and genocidal nation state in the Middle East (if you exclude the US military bases there). And yet feddit.org seems to regard the Palestinians fighting against Israel’s ongoing illegal occupation of their land as the real terrorists. …

More context

Our instance already voted to ban pro-Zionist accounts (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/60585441 for reference) and the rule that was implemented is here: Golden Rule #8.

As further context, you can find relevant comments and discussion in this post by a banned feddit admin in MoG (that fact they chose to post in MoG is in itself quite telling), and this post about their defederation from quokk.au over anti-semitism allegations has recently become active again. …

Note 2: If you think feddit.org deserves a full instance ban instead, or have alternative suggestions, then please leave your comments below. If enough people think that’s the better option, then we’ll do that instead.

In the end the Post had around 70% of support by dbzer0 users, who in the comments also called for defederation.

Here is a Link to Dbzer0 instances tab https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/instances where if you go to blocked instances you can see fedddit.org is now defederated

i dont think feddit has made a post now, but when they do i will add it

  • Tywèle [she|her]@piefed.socialEnglish
    118·
    10 hours ago

    Yes the genocide of Palestinians is bad but I have only so much energy to care deeply about things in the world. I can’t change anything about what is happening there, it’s not in my power to do so.

    Edit: And comments like yours are the reason why I usually abstain from participating in “political discussions”. It’s exhausting.

    • 7101334@lemmy.worldEnglish
      41·
      5 hours ago

      I can’t change anything about what is happening there, it’s not in my power to do so.

      Are you boycotting Israeli goods, media, and anything else that could give money to the Zionist entity? That’s the bare minimum any person of conscience should do.

      • Tywèle [she|her]@piefed.socialEnglish
        21·
        4 hours ago

        Yes, maybe that would do something but also as I said I can’t care about everything to the fullest degree or be informed about everything because no one has that energy. For example I could ask you the same regarding veganism and the vast majority of people won’t care about that (I care because every decision buying food, clothing and other things directly impacts the lives of animals for example).

        • 7101334@lemmy.worldEnglish
          21·
          4 hours ago

          I can’t care about everything to the fullest degree or be informed about everything because no one has that energy

          I know people who work all the time and have energy. You have probably a mixture of privilege and exhaustion. We’re talking about scanning some barcodes so you can help avoid preventing fellow human beings, including children, from being massacred.

          For example I could ask you the same regarding veganism

          I am a vegan lol

          • Tywèle [she|her]@piefed.socialEnglish
            21·
            3 hours ago

            I know people who work all the time and have energy. You have probably a mixture of privilege and exhaustion. We’re talking about scanning some barcodes so you can help avoid preventing fellow human beings, including children, from being massacred.

            Am I privileged as a trans woman?

            There are many easy things that add up and take up mental space and lead to exhaustion and empathy/compassion fatigue.

            I am a vegan lol

            You know what I mean. Vegans are the vast minority among people.

    • LeninWeave [any]@lemmy.mlEnglish
      53·
      5 hours ago

      I don’t think you have bad intent here, but I think Riverside didn’t like the implication that “deep political discussions” are necessary to understand that “Israel/Palestine” is in fact “the colonial genocide of Palestinians by Israel”. I think that’s fair. It’s OK to not want to discuss politics online, but you don’t need “deep discussions” to know that colonialism is always wrong.

      • Tywèle [she|her]@piefed.socialEnglish
        21·
        4 hours ago

        And it is also not what I said or meant. Assumptions are dangerous. And people also have to keep in mind that not everyone speaks perfect English. Sometimes things get lost in translation or it can be difficult for someone to articulate themselves in a non-native language (like me).