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    Dems were to chickenshit to investigate the voter machines that were rigged by musk, and other gop alighned entities, they are totally complicit in the current regime, if its not obvious. both gop and dnc, were unlikely to back out of israeli AID, too much money politics involved.

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    We needed a report to tell us that? Well, maybe the DNC did. Everyone else kinda always thought supporting genocide was a shit idea and a bad way to win an election.

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    Of course. It’s Gaza that cost her votes and not how she’s a corporate puppet just looking out for her donors.

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    Its hilarious that they say this is a “secret” finding. Any child over the age of 5 could have told them this 15 months ago.

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    • Hamid Bendaas, a spokesperson for the IMEU Policy Project, said that during the meeting “the DNC shared with us that their own data also found that policy was, in their words, a ‘net-negative’ in the 2024 election.” Two other senior aides at the pro-Palestinian organization also said the DNC had drawn that conclusion.
    • Axios independently verified that Democratic officials conducting the autopsy believed the issue harmed the party’s standing with some voters.

    The intrigue: The IMEU Policy Project is now accusing the DNC of withholding its report in part because of its findings on Israel.

    • DNC spokesperson Kendall Witmer denied that.
    • When DNC officials announced last year that they wouldn’t release the audit, they said it was because they didn’t want the report to distract from the work of winning elections.

    Remember this the next time someone tries to lecture you on why your primary candidate is simply unelectable.

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    Someone repost to c/Politics and c/PoliticalMemes and watch the ensuing garbage tornado of denial

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    I mean, they could have checked out any online leftist space for about a year before the election. God knows I had to leave practically all of them because I was sick to death of all the “I’m not voting for Kamala over Gaza” comments. Note that I’m not American before you lecture me over who I should or shouldn’t have voted for.

    Maybe they thought it was all bluster and that leftists wouldn’t actually be that stupid, but apparently we are.

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      Note that I’m not American before you lecture me over who I should or shouldn’t have voted for.

      You are not American yet you defend American politicians complicity with the genocide . Palestinians do not give a damn about our excuses all they know is that both parties always provide billions in aid for Israel and diplomatic protection

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        Where am I defending them? I literally pointed out how obvious it should have been to them that many leftists were not going to vote in protest.

        But if you have the choice between “more genocide” and “less genocide”, and choose to abstain knowing full well that it will result in the “more genocide” option, you’re not noble, you’re a useful idiot. It’s not my fault they always have two shitty choices.

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          Where am I defending them?

          this quote is a defense for democrats

          But if you have the choice between “more genocide” and “less genocide”

          People who voted for both democrats and republicans voted for more genocide. Like I said palestinians do not give a damn about our American trashy country, their trashy political system and there trashy excuses. Are you that stupid that you think Palestinians will say to you thank you my brother/sister for voting for the one who sent 1% less weapons and money when the 99% of the rest of weapons are enough to destroy the rest of Gaza? It’s not even possible de determine who would give less since Obama a democrats signed the biggest military aid for Israel.

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            Like I said palestinians do not give a damn about our American trashy country, their trashy political system and there trashy excuses.

            When America is the one giving carte blanche to Israel to wipe them off the map, they have to. Do you think that Palestinians give a shit about those who didn’t vote? Because those who didn’t vote are extremely proud of making one of the lowest effort, most impotent protests in human history.

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              When America is the one giving carte blanche to Israel to wipe them off the map, they have to.

              70% of all structures in Gaza were damaged or destroyed 92% of all housing units destroyed or damaged 88% of school buildings were damaged or destroyed 80% of key water, sanitation, and hygiene (WASH) facilities Only 16 out of 36 hospitals were partially functioning, facing critical shortages of fuel, medicine, and clean water. 75% of agricultural land, including orchards and greenhouses, was damaged or destroyed

              This would not happen without Biden and Harris giving them carte blanche. There was zero sign of the cease fire was going under democrats . They knew that Israel is the reason why it didn’t happen yet blamed it on Hamas

              Both party is giving carte blanche to Israel so like I said Palestinians do not cares about your excuses .

              The only for Trump to be worse than Biden and Harris is if all Gaza is destroyed and all Palestinians are ethnically cleansed from the land. Still Trump should rot in jail just like Biden for fueling the genocide

              You can’t even afford to condemn Harris for supporting Trump terrible plan for Gaza

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        And you’re still proud of supporting mass murder because the other side also does it. Demand better.

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          If you didnt vote you supported mass murder also. And the complete obliteration and sale of all palestinian land to the highest bidder. Be better

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            Harris was going to let israel completely destroy the strip. Israel was really close to do it.

            This happen during Biden

            70% of all structures in Gaza were damaged or destroyed 92% of all housing units destroyed or damaged 88% of school buildings were damaged or destroyed 80% of key water, sanitation, and hygiene (WASH) facilities Only 16 out of 36 hospitals were partially functioning, facing critical shortages of fuel, medicine, and clean water. 75% of agricultural land, including orchards and greenhouses, was damaged or destroyed

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          The time to demand better is literally any other time than when you get to choose between fetid neoliberalism and full throated fascism. The fact that the DNC fucked us all by, among other things, not having a primary doesn’t change the fact that Harris would have been preferable, even though she sucks.

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            Demand better instead of making excuses. I voted for her, I hated it but I did. Sorry I didn’t Vote Blue No Matter Who hard enough to make her weak campaign actually have a chance to win.

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    Well let that be a lesson for the world leftists : you can’t ignore Gaza. Sudan, Yemen, atrocious wars and armies terrorism on population, they aren’t less or more important. But Gaza is colonialism at its worst : modern, sponsored, lying, covering-up, and so on. You can’t stand for humanism if you don’t support the Gazan people, or if you sell weapons, send cheers or do not step up against netanyahu’s government

    Whether it’s missing the courage, being blackmailed or bribed, or hand-tied because of past-accointances but Kamala never did the right thing for the Palestinian people, and beside the fate of Gazan, the price to pay for such inaction is the world’s rapid rise of a renewed, more strenghtful, and shameless fascism.

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    I’m glad that the alternate US president has been so great to Palestine. Gaza is saved. /s

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      70% of all structures in Gaza were damaged or destroyed 92% of all housing units destroyed or damaged 88% of school buildings were damaged or destroyed 80% of key water, sanitation, and hygiene (WASH) facilities Only 16 out of 36 hospitals were partially functioning, facing critical shortages of fuel, medicine, and clean water. 75% of agricultural land, including orchards and greenhouses, was damaged or destroyed

      This was during Biden

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          I am saying that both Trump and Biden are complicit in the genocide and both should rot in jail or even better getting executed

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              The whole strip may already all be destroyed if Harris won. At best she would have been as bad as Trump. Trump want to make money from Gaza so he oppose temporarily the complete destruction. If his plan fail he will allow Israel to finish the plan of extermination just like Harris would too .That gives Palestinians the opportunity to buy time and play with Trump weaknesses.

              Vice President Harris said during an interview with ABC News’ “The View” on Tuesday that “there is not a thing that comes to mind” when asked whether she would’ve done anything differently than President Biden.

              Later in the interview, she said that one of the differences between her and a Biden administration would be having a Republican in the cabinet, a pledge that she has made before on the campaign trail.

              Look at how Harris is licking republicans and trump boots

              Later in the interview, she said that one of the differences between her and a Biden administration would be having** a Republican in the cabinet**, a pledge that she has made before on the campaign trail.

              Through diplomacy and persistence, today is an important first step toward a more hopeful future,” Harris said in a statement posted to the social platform X. “I commend the leaders and partners whose efforts made this agreement possible, including** the President and his team**.

              https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5554428-trump-administration-israel-hamas-agreement/

              https://www.axios.com/2024/10/08/harris-biden-view-abc-2024-differences

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          Maybe a good campaign and following your promises? Just a hunch to be popular in a popularity contest.

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            Politics isnt somethung you can sit out. You either voted against trump or for him. There were no other votes to cast. If you didnt vote you cast you ballot for him.

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              Both side voted for genocide. Palestinians do not give a damn about your shitty country, your shitty political system and your shitty excuses