• ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml
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    Even beyond like actual facts and evidence proving this wrong, I have one fundamental question for all these nutcases making wild claims about diet: why the fuck would X diet do Y thing?

    Like what about eating more meat and fat & being in ketosis could possibly have any effect on schizophrenia, of all things.

    It doesn’t even make sense on any basic level. Could there theoretically be some counterintuitive thing that would cause an effect? Maybe, sure. But come on - these wacky claims don’t even pass the sniff test.

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    The evidence that ketogenic diet might help with schizophrenia symptom remission comes from two case reports that Palmer published in Schizophrenia Research in 2019. When discussing them, Palmer was quick to emphasise that “yes, it’s only two”, and that “case reports don’t prove anything. They’re not controlled. They come with tremendous amounts of bias.” But, Palmer noted, that can be important for generating hypotheses about what treatments might work. Palmer thought it was valuable to publish these case reports because remission of schizophrenia symptoms is incredibly rare.

    Two case studies! The scientist quoted knows that it means nothing! Don’t read one article that might show something that confirms your bias and go “this is real.”

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    Look at the last year.

    Now imagine permanently living in a conservative America.

    That’s a reality we’re actually facing because Americans can’t get their shit together.

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      That’s a carnivore diet. A ketogenic diet can be vegan.

      Not that I’m recommending a vegan keto diet, I’m just saying you got your diets mixed up.

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        After some health issues I did a whole food plant based, SOS, Keto diet. My cholesterol ratio went to 1.08 without meds, I lost a ton of weight, was full of energy and got fit as fuck, and apparently I was “full of color” because I was now eating a ton of vitamins and nutrients. Great diet but viciously difficult to keep up with unless you have a peraonal chef.

        Needless to say, I am no longer that strict.

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          I’ve also done several stints of mostly veg with some fish keto, and every time it’s like magic. Feel great, clear head, drop 5kg over a couple weeks. It’s always back-to-back social things or travel that break it. If I lived in a bubble or some keto-only hippie commune, I’d be shredded like a block of cheddar.

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            It was the COVID lockdown that killed it for me. I haven’t been terrible since, but I also have not found the motivation to go hard core again.

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        When has RFK ever suggested a vegan diet? The article referenced a “red meat, whole milk and animal fats” diet. So my mistake I should have said steak not chicken.

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      It’s more insidious than that. In general, meat forward diet influencers are entry points into the conservative pipeline. You start out seeking to improve your health and very quickly end up exposed to jordan peterson types who will ominously warn you of the “normalization of inadequacy” among the general public and suggest progressively more conservative content as a pathway to achieving your full potential.

      So in essence, though he may not seem to directly benefit, by highlighting these types of diets he knows plenty of people will hop on youtube or whatever and get algorithm’d right back into the broader MAHA/MAGA sphere

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    “RFK Jr’s claim keto diet can cure schizophrenia” But RFK jr is living proof that it’s not true or he would no longer be schizo. Go away raw milk boy.