• Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
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    US embassies in Jerusalem and Qatar issued statements on Tuesday saying they could not help Americans leave the Middle East.

    CORRECTION: US embassies in Jerusalem and Qatar issues statements on Tuesday saying they have CHOSEN NOT TO HELP Americans leave the Middle East.

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    Trapped Americans getting whoopsie-killed as shit all over the place gets blown up? That sounds like a great justification for throwing more money and lives at attacking the Epstein Files-- I mean, Iran.

    Honestly I would be more surprised if it were simply a gutted and incompetent goverment, rather than intentional.

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      Them files gotta be a whole lot fucking worse than we think given the lengths they’re going to distract people.

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          Do you happen to know the source for that infographic? I’d like to look deeper myself: 1999-2001 have Trump written all over them, even if only by inference, given the admitted dates of their “friendship” (if it ever ended at all).

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          Yeah I’ve deliberately put off fact checking and repeating that to be quite honest. The murmurs of the Internet were finally starting to unify against the rich. And to shut us up a possible runaway war was started. Everything is truly fucked.

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    My brother was stuck in Jallisco during the operation there. The US embassy was forwarding calls to Jallisco Emergency Services.

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    US didnt think or care about our own people when “planning” this? Shocking.

    I do hope they find a way out…

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      I would assume it’s part of the plan.

      Getting Americans killed can be turned into maga propaganda quite easily. It’s not like the cult members are going to blame Trump.

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      To be fair, Israel fired the first shots when they learned about a gathering of high profile diplomats who could all be murdered together. They did the schoolgirls at the same time just because that’s how Israelis roll.

      It seems like the US didn’t anticipate things popping off at this somewhat earlier than expected juncture. But also, that US leadership doesn’t really give a shit how many American lives are lost fighting Israel’s wars for them, so there’s that too.

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        They probably thought there’s only one guy that can order the retaliation and killing him will end the conflict and… Yea, no, they thought they were playing CoD. Who cares when NPCs dies anyway?

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      Not a part of the leadership’s plan. Now if we were made of crude oil, we’d be carefully extracted.

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      They did. They just don’t care.

      Remember Benghazi?

      While there were some light moments about the former secretary of state’s sleeping habits and legal fees, much of the day was dedicated to examining the circumstances surrounding the attacks on the American compound in Libya, her email practices and, of course, the real intentions of the investigation.

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    Maybe I’m showing my ignorance here, but isn’t that like one of their major responsibilities?

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      US Embassies exist to protect the *people of the US in foreign settings.

      *people as defined by Citizens United v. FEC (2010)

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      Kind of. Their main purpose, though, is to represent the state for relations and dealings with the host, citizen services are secondary to this. Political capital within that relationship will determine what kind of things that they can help with, but overall you as an individual are responsible for yourself. There’s many places you’re kind of SOL even with an embassy.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_mission

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        Ransoming countrymen of the represented country is literally one of the oldest diplomatic functions on earth and is a big part of why embassies were established in the first place.

        Your own source literally defines the term “diplomatic mission” as:

        The basic role of a diplomatic mission is to represent and safeguard the interests of the home country and its citizens in the host country

        So no, looking after the citizens of the represented country is NOT “secondary to the diplomatic mission” it IS the diplomatic mission.

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          Embassies can deprioritise citizen services when diplomatic relations within the host state make it politically costly to physically impossible, which is exactly what’s happening here. That’s the substantive point about the article and why citizen services are not even mentioned in the introduction.

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            Shame that’s not what you said when I replied to you and then repeated several times in the course of this discussion.

            Their main purpose, though, is to represent the state for relations and dealings with the host, citizen services are secondary to this.

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              I meant is it’s not a service I’d depend on in a regional crisis as they can and will deprioritse it. It is not the main mission as the following passage to that sentence shows:

              The functions of a diplomatic mission consist, inter alia, in representing the sending State in the receiving State; protecting in the receiving State the interests of the sending State and of its nationals, within the limits permitted by international law; negotiating with the Government of the receiving State; ascertaining by all lawful means conditions and developments in the receiving State, and reporting thereon to the Government of the sending State; promoting friendly relations between the sending State and the receiving State, and developing their economic, cultural and scientific relations.[18]

              It’s not even rare for embassies outside of the first world’s to be openly hostile or outright useless to their own citizens in a pinch during times of peace.

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    If you voted for the bumbling pedo criminal and have front row seats for his piss poor planned shitshow, zero sympathy. I hope the water treatment plants fail during your visit.

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            Okay, rephrasing it then “What are Americans doing in near proximity to a place that has been a war zone for more than 20 years due to US intervention in the region?” and the answer is “Either profiting off of US oil interests or propping up the tourism industry of US interested parties.”

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              Do you think every place in the Middle East is at war? Dude, that’s like saying every place in Africa is in poverty and starving. It’s a big place.

              And what about all the tourists propping up the US with tourism dollars, supporting a warmonger country? If you want to play Silly Buggers about the whole thing…

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      I think it’s usually people with dual citizenship and Qatar wasnt a war zone until we made it that way.