• GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca
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    3 hours ago

    So like, was George Bush a Russian puppet too? The Iraq war harmed America. Was Obama a Russian puppet for cancelling the public option and letting the bankers get away with crashing the economy?Was Biden a Russian puppet, since he was sleepy and feckless?

    I’m a lot more inclined that your problems are due to institutional and societal rot, accumulated failures, a lack of planning, etc., rather than a grand Russian conspiracy. But if that’s true and you’re penetrated to the point where your government is just secretly controlled by Russia, I think you should just ask China to annex you. That way you at least could have a functioning country.

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      3 hours ago

      Strawmen.

      “Uh you’re saying Russia has completely controlled the US for several decades.”

      No I didn’t lol, learn 2 read a bit.

      Challenge the facts instead pushing your childish whatabout strawmen.

      “Your problems”

      Roflmao illiterate bro. Too illiterate. I’m not American in the slightest. I could drive to St Petersburg in a matter of hours.

      Challenge the facts.

      https://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/explainers/russian-asset-trumps-policy-behavior-confirms-evidence-groomed-kremlin-since-1980s/

      A Russian asset: Trump’s policy behavior confirms evidence he was groomed by the Kremlin since the 1980s

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        So Trump is a deep cover Soviet sleeper agent who has infiltrated all the way to the top rungs of power in the United States, and is using that power to destroy America? Fuck yeah, that rules.

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          What did I just about the strawmen?

          Trump is not a sleeper of any sort. Well except in the “napping grandpa” way.

          Read the article, maybe?

          #The “Kyiv Independent” published an explosive interview on February 26 that torched any lingering doubt about President Donald Trump’s deep ties to Russian intelligence.

          Veteran journalist Craig Unger has tracked Trump’s relationships with Moscow for years He laid out evidence that Trump was carefully groomed as a Russian asset beginning in the 1980s. Less than a week after the bombshell report, Trump used his platform at the United Nations to dismiss Ukraine’s pleas and embrace Vladimir Putin’s narrative on Eastern Europe.

          His statements cemented the idea that a decades-long foreign plot had successfully infiltrated the Oval Office, transforming the United States into a vessel for Moscow’s ambitions.

          Many Americans once dismissed reports of Trump’s ties to Russian intelligence as wild conspiracy theories. Yet Unger’s findings, presented in his books “House of Trump, House of Putin” and “American Kompromat,” outline a consistent chain of events stretching back more than 40 years.

          Soviet operatives, later replaced by Russian oligarchs, funneled suspicious cash into Trump’s real estate deals and played upon his narcissistic vanity. Over time, the strategy shaped Trump’s worldview to align seamlessly with the Kremlin’s long-term interests. Today, Russia reaps enormous gains as the White House methodically undermines Western unity, weakening NATO, and eroding confidence among America’s most vital allies.

          The pattern was on full display during Trump’s U.N. address, where he castigated Ukraine for “bringing its troubles on itself” and chided Europe for failing to “handle its own backyard.”

          In those remarks, he reversed decades of bipartisan consensus that the United States should confront unprovoked aggression in Europe. Instead of backing a nation under siege, Trump effectively blamed Kyiv’s government for the devastation wrought by Russian firepower.

          Putin’s state media wasted no time broadcasting those segments, painting the U.S. president as an enlightened leader who recognizes the Kremlin’s alleged right to expand its sphere of influence.

          Unger’s new revelations sent shockwaves through Washington circles. Once portrayed by supporters as a patriotic firebrand, Trump now looks more like a Trojan horse carefully cultivated by Russian intelligence. The journalist’s interview with the Kyiv Independent highlighted key phases of infiltration: financial bailouts for Trump when U.S. banks shunned him, orchestrated praise from Russian figures, and direct contact with individuals linked to the KGB’s successor services.

          The result, Unger insisted, was a president whose foreign policy systematically furthers Moscow’s objectives — even if he never receives direct orders. In intelligence parlance, that is the very definition of an “asset.”