Warnings of Iran Invasion Grow as US to Send Up to 5,000 Marines, Sailors to Middle East

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    Looks like they changed up the headline on you:

    “Warnings of Iran Invasion Grow as US to Send Up to 5,000 Marines, Sailors to Middle East”

    We require the headlines to match, but I always give a reasonable amount of time to fix it before we pull the post.

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      This rule would be impossible with the BBC articles lately. They keep changing the headlines every like 15 minutes, it’s horrendous.

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        They keep changing the headlines every like 15 minutes, it’s horrendous.

        Unfortunately, a lot of other websites keep doing it . And not only for marked “live” updates. Sometimes they include the revisions, but nowadays they don’t even show that. Only way to handle this is (for OP) to check regularly the titles of your posted articles, especially when they are only a couple mins old . Its a bother.

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          Sounds like a problem automation can fix. Maybe a bot that periodically check the source material’s headline and revise the headline on Lemmy while keeping a history of changes. Might have it check the headline for a day so that it’s not checking the same post forever.

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        It’s a serious problem with anything marked “Live Coverage!” too. Every update changes the headline.

        Which is why I always give OPs a chance to fix it. When I post one myself, I’m re-checking it every time I go in to read new comments.

        The only thing really forbidden are headlines that are obviously editorialized.

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    8 months ago

    5000 marines dying for a man who raped and then murdered and then ate tiny little baby children.

    Damn, what a way to go.

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      I doubt 5000 marines are going to die in Iran. We might loss a few hundred… But that is going to be 5000 marines that are away from their families for a long time. That’s going to be billions of dollars spent supporting those Marines. Most importantly, it’s going to be tens, if not hundreds of thousand of people in Iran killed in an invasion.

      Iraq and Afghanistan were costly, and lengthy failures for the US, and we had fucking plans for how to deal with them. There is no fucking way the clown cabal running the government right now had any kind of plan for a stable and independent Iran after this.

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        It sounds like what you are saying is that this administration is going to get even more than 5000 marines killed.

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        Like missile defense systems that are being canibalized out of Asia to serve Israel, this is Japan “defensive” assets that will be kamikazeed onto Iran.

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    So far, we have been able to weasel out of every definition of war. I’m curious to see how that changes with boots on the ground.

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      It’s a war. Call it what it is and not what the politicians tell you it is. Fuck their definitions. People are dying.

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        Oh I agree 100 percent. I’m also not worried about what politicians call it. I only want to see the administration defend their many broken laws in a court room one day.

        I know. I got jokes.

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      The US President and the US ministry of war have called it a war many times already. They call it a war pretty much all the time. If someone is still not calling it for what it is then they‘re probably high on Russian propaganda and didn‘t read the script. Again, the US president started a war to distract from his disastrous polling numbers and he doesn‘t even try to hide it. Unlike his close relationship to Jeffrey Epstein.

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      i mean, we haven been to war since wwii. i’m just surprised no-one has noticed before this.

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      Let’s be honest here, it’s a war. You don’t get to massively bomb another country without it being a war. And every piece of international law says so. The American government might disagree, but it is a war.

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      Well you see, you’re not technically in Iran if you have boot between yourself and the soil.

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      I think Korea was the last time we called a war, and we never ended that either, just declared an armistace. Vietnam was a police action, all down the line, they authorized military force in 2001, never declared war, and they used that authorization for everything for a couple of decades or something.

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      They’re not going to Iran. We’ve had boots on the ground at American, joint, and foreign bases around the world for decades. Not to mention actual combat deployments to places like Syria without a congressional declaration of war

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        The Syrian deployments were covered by the 2001 AUMF. But that AUMF has finally been repealed now. It would be a serious escalation in claimed presidential powers to send ground forces into anything longer than approximately Grenada.

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    did they not learn from the 80s when they were fighting the soviets with the mujahadeen, and then desert storm, and then the bush wars in the ME, oh and this all helps ISRAEl. currently this has been helping russia, since TRUMP lifted sanctions on them today.

    all this was a way to HELP putin without directly lifting sanctions, he needed a “reason to do it” and that reason why iran war caused oil to increase in price.

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      Ah ha! The clever way of helping Putin by letting him invade when not president, then getting him to blow up his own pipeline and bridge, then getting sanctions put on him, to cleverly let Putin have a few crumbs years later…

      Indeed, the perfidy knows no bounds.

      You “Russia Russia Russia” people realize we can’t even predict weather a few days in advance despite immense computing resources, but you think someone can predict human actions like Hari Seldon?

      Jesus fucking Christ we’re a hopeless species.

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        The president is conpromised by Putin, nobody with their head outside of the billionaires’ ass should be unawares of that at this point. The above commenter however didn’t mention that the Israelis also have him, and his pals, compromised.

        It really is like that.

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    It will be interesting to see how well that goes over with the isolationist Trump supporters who liked the idea of non-involvement abroad and thought that that was what they were getting with Trump.

    It sounds like Tucker Carlson, for example, which has been playing to the isolationist crowd, has been pretty critical of activity in Iran.

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      They’ll just suffer from broken spines from bending over backwards trying to explain how they always supported the idea of going to war again and how its the woke libtards who are in the wrong.

      In other news Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia

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      Not just Tucker there are a bunch of them. Many are very against Israel, as I am, and I welcome their help.

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    I’m pretty sure we can’t have that many without congressional approval.

    Everyone make sure to stab your senators in Minecraft.

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    How does one say: “America is beyond fucked” but in MAGAt speak?

    Long live the draft yanks. This is Vietnam, but way worse and just like Vietnam, you’ll loose this fucking war as well, because for all your chest thumping, you absolutely suck at war.

    Anything to protect a pedophile and the rest of the Epstein class I suppose.

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      How does one say: “America is beyond fucked” but in MAGAt speak?

      “Shit is great and I am thrilled about what we are doing!”

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      hes most afraid of exposing more billionaires and apparently influencers to the epstein files into the news spotlight, who are also his donors.

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      It’s true. USA hasn’t won its own war since their Civil one, if that counts. They’ve been on the side of victors in other people’s wars, but not for any skill other than being able to build shit and ship it over quick.

      This is the standard play. Big show of bravado at the start, realise it’ll take more, troops go in, yada yada yada, USA loss.

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    Its not a war until Trump announces the invasion to reporters while playing golf.

    And he must finish the announcement with “Now watch this drive”.

    As is tradition for invading middle eastern countries.

    That is the protocol.

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      I thought for sure this would be “Bomb Iran” or “BYOB”, but Tom Lehrer is a welcome surprise XD

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        Your hopium wont change reality, civilian deaths will most likely be in thousands if not hundreds of thousands if these guys do boots on the ground.

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      I’ll take 4999 body bags and one survivor that the rest of us can ridicule. Fuck the Marines, every single one of them.

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          When I was a teenager, I knew that killing 165 little girls is a bad thing to do. I understood that torture is a bad thing to do. Also, the average age of marines is about 25. Most of them are not teenagers.

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            I agree. Just know the news they see is 100% different than what the other half of the population sees. Everyone gets news from Facebook and influencers. It’s all according to who they watch. Also, those people sign up for years at a time. When they asked National Guard to be on streets to help ICE, many didn’t show up or were threatening not to. Things were not this bad when Biden was in office.

            In any case, every one of those guys are probably going to die. It sounds like a suicide mission to rally citizens around the cause. Not sure if it will work.

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          Still doesn’t excuse raping foreign civilians out of boredom or overlooking your friends doing it tho.

          I understand. I probably would have done the same if I grew up like they did. It still would have been unfair for me not suffer any consequences.