UK and Japan among countries that are considering options but yet to commit warships to blockaded shipping route
Countries including the UK, Japan, China and South Korea have said they are still considering their options but without making commitments after the US president, Donald Trump, urged them to send warships to the strait of Hormuz to secure the vital shipping route.
The effective closure of the strait of Hormuz by Tehran, in retaliation for airstrikes by the US and Israel, has proved catastrophic for global energy and trade flows, causing the largest oil supply disruption in history and soaring global oil prices.
However, the international response to Trump’s call for the dispatch of warships has so far proved vague and reluctant, with countries unwilling to commit to a military response that could prove treacherous for their navies.
I thought he didn’t need any help with the war he had already won?
Once again, the USA being the only NATO member to ask ‘allies’ for help, only to later call all of them freeloaders.
He could ask Spain.
Spain says he should send your children to the battlefield.
The United States needs a regime change
And a system change to boot. This is a symptom.
Mission accomplished! We won the war!…Now everyone help me out with this war! 🫲🍊🫱
Why should any sane country even respond? This is an American-Israeli undertaking. They started it out of folly, they deal with it.
Maybe he should ask his “Board of Peace” for support. There are more than enough bootlickers.
Or the ships should simply follow the law of the seas: the country responsible for the ships’ security in such cases is the one they are sailing under. Let’s see how Panama, Nigeria, Philippines (or whatever is the cheapest flag of fancy at the moment) run to help.
Maybe some FIFA warships will do the trick 🤡🤡🤡👌🏻👌🏻😂😂 Sorry i can’t… its the only way for me to digest this timeline xddd
As it should. NATO is a defense alliance, not a pedoking/kingbibi distraction gone bad. I hope the EU can keep holding on, because the influx into far right parties and EU election tampering has become noticeable enough to possibly change this in the future.
Why isn’t the Orange ShitGoblin using the ‘Board of Peace’ to sort this trifling issue out?
Typo, it was supposed to be ‘Bored of Peace’ /s
The next world war is gonna be governments vs people. World civil war
Isn’t that what MAGA claims Jan. 6th was about? People are getting increasingly put into bubbles to work against their own countries by networks bought up by billionaires exactly for that purpose, and they are spinning it just as you have.
I dislike increasingly elaborate insult names, absolutely no one who cares about it really needs convincing, they just make it unnecessarily long and random nonsensical jibberish. And I like mangos.
But what if they’re hilarious, like Drumpf
/s
It’s ok to call the namecaller-in-chief names.
If they don’t make any sense to you, you might be clueless. Two words, “increasingly elaborate”, and one of them is literally used by the supporter’s of whom I was referring to.
NATO only does humanitarian bombing.
haha
Don’t you laugh, damn you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia
“NATO framed its bombing as a humanitarian intervention”
A purely defensive humanitarian bombing, mind you, according to astute international affairs observer TheObviousSolution.
Now, let me tell you about a country called Russia. They don’t do humanitarian bombings. That’s quite silly of them since all they needed to do is “frame” it as such.
But what can you expect from a country that can apparently invade all of Europe with a single washing machine CPU.
Sorry to offend your favorite country’s pedoking ally that you had to go several decades into the past. Funny though, the love relationship between Trump and Putin, and how offended people like you seem to get when either are criticized.
NATO is a defense alliance. That it has or hasn’t lived up to the designation isn’t a good segue into your propaganda spins and attempts at talking bullshit about other users, it can be criticized when it hasn’t just as it is being criticized now.
The Yugoslav Army only does humanitarian ethnic cleansing.
Let’s ask one related question so everyone can decide whether any argument here will be handled in good faith or not.
Do you believe Bosnian Serbs were commiting genocide?
WHAT!! It was “ethnic cleansing”. And what does NATO have to do with this? They have these humanity-loving impulses only in certain cases, it seems.
There’s a very simple solution to it. The US fucks off. They’ve made things a lot worse for themselves and everyone else as it is, so pull out now and we’ll all try figure out how to clean this mess up over the next year or two.
Damn, wasn’t it like 5 days ago he said he didn’t need the Royal Navy?
Yes but reality and Trump have never been comfortable bedfellows. He claimed that Iran’s entire naval fleet had been completely wiped out and it turns out it was just one ship they sunk. And now the world’s most powerful military are apparently unable to secure a patch of water about 20 miles across.
He should bring this up in donalds peace board.
This seems to suggest that shitting on our allies, behaving erratically, and stabbing them in the back (and front) isn’t the best way to build a broad coalition devoted to mutual interests, to say nothing of a narrow coalition devoted to obvious imperialism. I look forward to learning more about this hypothesis in The Art of the Deal 2.
I guarantee you they have not made that connection at all.
Also suggests Trump floated the idea with the press before discussion in detail with, you know, the actual people who would be sending the boats
The documentaries in ten or twenty years are gonna slap
… If we get there
This is really stupid, just from a strategic point of view, let alone from a moral or political perspective. Sending ships into the Strait just puts those ships in the line of fire…so, why would anyone actually agree to send ships there?
Iran has the “high ground” here. There is no way for ships to take back control of the Strait this way. All the US is doing, is asking allies to take losses for no reason.
Or… he’s asking them to take losses because he doesn’t consider them allies. World conquest would be easier with the Chinese and UK navies out of the way.
Not sending ships is harming the economy and preventing gas and energy going where it is needed. Also forcing it to be flared of potentially.
There are obvious reasons one might want to put assets at risk to prevent that. And benefit from shipments.
Fuel prices aren’t going up at the moment because we have reserves. It’s likely that Trump will give up before those run out in 6 months time, so why risk the assets?
3 weeks ago I could get diesel at €1.60/l.
Now it is over €2 per litre and I am in the weird situation today I cannot fill my tank from empty because the bank does not pre-authorise enough. So fuel prices have absolutely gone up, at least to consumers in rural France, which is all I personally care about.
Fuel prices have gone up by about a third or more. I have no idea where you live but to me this just sounds plainly untrue, since other countries and economies are suffering. And about 20% of global production stopping is obviously a thing.
The billions we would lose if one of our aircraft carriers were to be sunk is not a price worth paying for slightly cheaper fuel.
Besides, a few days ago Don said he didn’t need us.
It’s not slightly cheaper fuel and a hull loss of a carrier seems unlikely unless being truly daft.
It’s less about fuel being expensive and more about it being available. Otherwise some will go without and the poor tend to suffer the most in affordability crises.
Also I didn’t say you should. Just that it ain’t cut and dry.
Any naval ship in the strait is a sitting duck to AS missiles and drones. Sending British military personnel to risk death defending Trump’s distraction from the epstein files is unacceptable.
I feel like you are not listening to my point and instead panicking headlessly.
I am listening to your point.
I’m disagreeing with it. The USA started this pointless war for vanity reasons. I don’t want to see British troops put in unnecessary danger.
The only way to stop the attacks would be for America and Israel to occupy the coastal areas and mountains of Iran. Or to surrender.
A naval ship sailing near an oil tanker isn’t going to accomplish anything.
I didn’t even say Britain should deploy. Or do so ineffectually.
NO country should side with Trump unless Trump is open to negotiated-ceasefire/settlement.
Otherwise, they’re just backing baldfaced imperialism.
& the minute that Trump decides that negotiated isn’t on the table anymore?
Withdraw support.
Principles are what no political-gov’t can have the spine to have, though.
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the us just constantly violates ceasefires and agreements anyway, and have been like this for many decades.
it makes no sense to make a deal with them expecting anything other than buying time until they are inevitably backstabbed.
iran itself refrained from nukes with the agreement that it would be left alone by the empire lmao
I have to respectfully disagree. There is no such thing as “negotiation” with Trump and his admin. Serial bad faith actors with no checks and balances from courts or congress. They have no rule of law. It’s a tin pot dictatorship.
It is pointless to engage at any level. They act and react, everyone else acts and reacts. That’s it. When Trump is dead, the same rules apply because the courts and congress are still populated with the same people that enabled him.
We can save a lot of time and money and just eject US embassies worldwide for at least the next 20 years. US Diplomacy is dead.
NO country should side with Trump. Doesn’t need to be more reason.
Ummm… no country should do this unless they have super effective defenses against USV (naval drones)
afaik, no country on this planet has that ability.
The price of energy means that some countries are very much incentivised to do that. Iran is targeting them by intercepting/blocking shipments.
Does just mean that it’s much more complicated than being a clear no.
Good. Fuck the US, Israel and Trump. And fuck anyone and everyone that supports this pedophilic nazi piece of shit.
He is just looking for someone to be left holding the bag that he has already filled with shit.
Israel.
Israel is the perfect scapegoat on this, all trump has to do is pull his ships back and stop being a defense for Israel.
That’s literally what the American Christian right has always wanted with their support of Israel too.
Their doomsday prophecy is:
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Jewish ethnostate in Israel
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War in the Middle East, started by Israel
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Israel getting wiped off the map which causes the rapture
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Nonbelivers have to experience Armageddon
Which was cool with Israel up to step 2, but we just passed that a few weeks ago…
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