You’re not productive if you don’t use a lot of AI, says guy who makes all of his money selling AI hardware
Jensen compared today’s AI tools to machinery that was invented during the industrial revolution
They really want this to be an apt comparison and it’s really not
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It seems that the Nvidia CEO isn’t the only one investing in AI tokens for his employees to freely use.
They also really want to talk about tokens like they’re some kind of currency
It’s worse, they want to change the global economy to corporations paying corporations…
The total elimation of actual consumers, because none of us will be able to afford to consume enough.
AI companies need people to pay for AI to keep buying Nvidia chips. So Nvidia is making their employees pay for the AI so AI companies keep buying Nvidia chips.
It’s not a sustainable system, it’s just a money churn whose only purpose is to consolidate wealth.
I’m hungry. When do we eat?
That’s the neat part!
So ponzi scheme?
I didn’t read it that way. I think he’s saying “bosses: if you’re paying a $100k salary to a dev and not also paying $50k for tokens, your dev isn’t working hard enough”. Which is better, but only just.
To refine that even further, he doesn’t appear to imply that the dev isn’t WORKING hard enough, only that they’re not being OPTIMALLY PRODUCTIVE.
What he’s trying to do, really is float and normalize the concept of baking tokens into HR math in terms of a “golden ratio”… which happens to be 2:1.
So, when a company goes all in on ai, and they cut thier workforce in half, they’ll need to add in 50% for tokens. 50% of the original staff, at a new 150% cost, puts the company at 75% pre ai workforce cost. This is the “guidelines” they’re trying to normalize.
It’s funny how his calculation factors in the completely immaterial price of tokens variable instead the material one which is the number of tokens or better yet the productivity gain per token.
Huh, yeah. 50% cost in tokens could be 1 very expensive token or 1 million tokens. Who knows?
I think he’s saying slaves should owe their soul to the company store.
Don’t give this sack of shite the benefit of doubt.
he needs new jackets.
A straight white one
He didn’t explicitly say it, but the language in use gels with the ones that have
With my trusty LLM, I follow the steps recommending that I try reaching inside the die press to look for any jammed parts that could have caused the machine to suddenly stop working. My coworker, who my boss sent to assist me based on instructions from her LLM, asks his LLM how to help me. My coworker’s LLM recommends that he check if the emergency stop button has been pulled…
The tokens as currency thing feels exactly like gaming microtransaction bullshit to me. Obscure the true cost of each purchase by selling in-game currency. Dark patterns lead to higher spending.
It’s proof of work cryptocurrency. But at least this time the compute is aiming at producing something useful, not the lowest hash value.
They also really want to talk about tokens like they’re some kind of currency
i think it is better than pizza fridays for them, because they probably can’t barter pizza for free.
This man went from high to low REAL fast.
The billionaire’s way
The secret is he’s always been low, nvidia has intermittently pulled tons of shady shit basically ever since the 3dfx days
What did they do?
Closed source linux drivers is not nice, but also not shady.
Idk when he was every regarded highly by Nvidia users/consumers. Only by corporate board and investors
ifs hes in the news this much like altman, they seem very DESPERATE like the bubbles about to pop.
It would take a great burden from my shoulders, if AI could wash my clothes, do the dishes, cook, and vacuum my apartment. Those are the things I don’t want to do. I like my job. I can do it myself. Yeah, sure, there are occasionally things that AI can do for me in my daily work, but it’s mostly stupid, repetitive shit. And then I have to review it, which sucks even harder.
So I found it kind of sucks to have those daily life tasks removed. I worked in a place early in my career that had on site catered food, on site laundry, on site massage, shopping services (before Amazon prime) and lodging for excessive overtime .
If it’s just leaving you more opportunity to work it sucks. I can’t be the only one who enjoys taking care of the daily life tasks Lê cleaning, shopping and cooking for myself. It’s what personalizes your life. When you do it for yourself, you decide what you eat and what you wear.
It seems cool but it’s offered so you never stop working and your life is never really your own.
I think the issue is that those things were tied to your job, not to some external source that just gives you free time to fuck around.
Yes.
CEO suggests raising employee costs by fifty percent and is immediately fired.
Sorry, we don’t live in a sane world anymore.
Huang wants employees to pay half of their salary back to the company ? There is no escaping the company store, eh ?
And CAD designers didn’t have to pay half of their salary to use the CAD tools the company wanted them to use. How did that guy get to be in charge ?
You code 16 lines, what do you get?
Another day older and deeper in debt
St. Peter, don’t you call me 'cause I can′t go
I owe my soul to the company store
I didn’t read it that way. I think he’s saying “bosses: if you’re paying a $100k salary to a dev and not also paying $50k for tokens, your dev isn’t working hard enough”.
Which is still utterly absurd, because it implies that a harder working dev would be spending more time chatting to a bot.
oh absolutely, but generating tokens is how nvidia gets paid, and companies are terrified of being left behind if they’re not 100% onboard with LLM workflows
This is clearly a situation where you are expected to spend 100% of a budget to keep your job.
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That is not at all what the article says. It’s way more self serving than that.
They’ve all realized there’s no point in even bothering to hide the grift anymore. People don’t care.
BREAKING NEWS: Guy who sells AI hardware says his employees must use more AI.
Sam Altman floated paying employees in chatGPT tokens, that surely their landlord will accept. The main motive would be being broke. Nvidia is not broke, but it is weird as fuck to be comparing it to salary, if it doesn’t segue into the OpenAI plan. The $500k salary example would seem to generate more tokens than you could have time to skim over in review.
He’s sooo close to arriving at crypto tokens.
uh oh… if only GPUs could do proof of work mining, if the AI thing gets oversupplied.
Luigi knows the solution for this.
It’s amazing they can just make these claims without literally any evidence and no major “media” organization asks for it. They are just propaganda for these companies.
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I’d say not before the bosses and shareholders agree to take 50% of their compensation in the form of AI tokens.
These fucking leeches…
Something I don’t understand - AI coding is mostly useful in common code, snippets, easy stuff. What Nvidia is doing (drivers, optimization, chip design, etc.) is something I imagine there is close to zero AI training, so what can they realistically even use it for so much?
so what can they realistically even use it for so much?
Burn money on AI tokens so it looks like AI could be profitable some day so people keep investing in AI companies that can then buy Nvidia chips…
You’re thinking of it like “how can AI make a better product”
They’re looking at it as “how can we sell more chips”
Two very different questions with very different answers.
It’s a house of cards and Nvidia can’t afford to acknowledge no one wants AI or knows how to make it profitable.
There’s plenty of driver code available. All of Linux and BSD, plus whatever internal stuff they have. Optimization is pretty generic.
Chip design maybe not, but I imagine you can train an AI on the principles and generate a bunch of candidates, then benchmark them in simulation.
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Can’t wait to to see AI that designs chips driving Nvidia out of business
They’re allegedly already vibe coding drivers so it’s bound to happen eventually
You can’t vibe code IC design. Look at the number of humans in the world that design advanced ICs. It’s a really low number for a highly specialized skill. Layout requires spacial awareness at a high level, which an LLM does not have.
Noone talks about LLM here. I’m talking about building new specialized model for that
Oh this will be a fun. “Please spend more of our company money, or else we will think you are not doing your job”
it’s so fucking easy to send bogus requests that use tons of processing time. This is the DUMBEST metric i’ve seen in a long, long time. If an employee of theirs uses 500k worth of processing time now, are they better employees? What if someone manages to spend 10 million worth of tokens? 100 million? Performance metrics should be outcome based instead of “how much money did you spend” lol
It’s not a metric it’s a marketing stunt.
I’d be amazed if they internally do not have objectives to implement the kool aid.
But yeah, of course it’s propaganda. If this bite lands in the right ear of an exec, they can implement this as a metric in their review process.
Kinda similar to musks LOC requirement. But at least with NVIDIA this idea directly correlates with more business if it spreads beyond the company
